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Telefunken adventures or how to dissasemble the Hifi Studio 1

nevone - 2011-01-17 14:00

First of all, it seems that the two differences between Studio 1 and Studio 1M are that the styling of the vu-meters (1 haves round scale and 1M haves in-line scale) and the fact that 1M haves FM till 108 while 1 haves FM going till 104. If there are any differences, please let me know.

I like this German engineering very much. The unit is very easy to disassemble. Already done that 5-6 times.

My unit have no working cassette deck so i assumed that it-s missing.
As i bought another studio 1 body for parts, i disassembled first that one and pulled out the belt. The bad thing is that you cannot see if the belt is missing before removing all the cassette deck mechanism.
The belt is around 13 centimeters in diameter, and 5mms thick (see picture)


I-m going to make this post about the disassemble process, telling my adventures on the side.

First: the back. It is very easy to take apart. After removing the speakers and the antenna chord, there are 4 screws on the sides that hold the entire thing. (Place marked as A on the back picture)

However, if you want to pull out the cassette deck mechanism, things get a little bit complicated. The mechanism is hold together by 2 screws on the back (marked as B on the back picture). One is easy enough to reach, but the other unfortunately is very hard to reach without removing the radiator. I managed to pull it out with the help of a pair of tweezers. And to complicate things even more, the play and stop (marked as C)are attached to the board with plastic parts. One you have to push, and the harder to reach, you have to pull. In order to do that, make sure it is in the UP position.

The front is easy to take apart too. First, you have to remove all the switches, and for that you need a 5mm sized star (inbus) screwdriver. After that (marked with arrows) there are 4 screws on the side and one in the bottom, in the battery cover.
In order to pull out the k7 mechanism, there are 5 screws to unscrew, in places easy to reach. Note that the screws from the top are covered by the k7 buttons. (marked as rounds on the front picture)


The belt from the tape counter is very easy to replace, provided that you have one of the right size. In my two units, i did not have one in one piece so i cannot say what size is needed, i guess i will have to try different sizes at a later time. The position of this belt is marked with red in the k7 mechanism close up.


An interesting feature is that you can tell the approximate production date of the unit by looking at the date written on the motor. It seems that my two units have been produced at a difference of 1 month.




Now to get back at my story, i have removed the k7 mechanism. Once removed, the belt is protected by a metal plate hold together by 3 screws, straight forward from this on.
To my surprise however, the belt was on his normal place. And since i have electrical current in the two wires connecting the k7 motor, i can only think that my motor is busted. I have another that i know works, but i will hold this operation on and submit everything to a friend that is more skilled than me.


I put everything together back again (putting back the k7 mechanism is more difficult than pulling it off) and i have used this occasion to change the face plate from the brown one to the silver one. It seems that it looks better, even if it haves a dent in the upper left side. Used the protection bars from the brown one since they were in better shape. Here-s the result:


Here is also some of the led work i have previously done on the unit. The leds are polished in order to spread the light more uniformly (they were focused on one point by default)

I welcome your comments. Still have a lot of work with this unit, but i-m getting there one step at a time.

bogdan - 2011-01-17 21:32

Very usefull and clear.I'm waiting for a TELEFUNKEN to come and that seems to have some deck issues,but not mechanical.The seller sais that no sound come out from the cassette,though the mechanical works.
I agree with you about the quality built,very solid,though it seems have not so many parts inside compared to the ,let's say,the gf9595.But it weights over 13 kilo! Roll Eyes

nevone - 2011-01-18 09:42

Thank you for your comments, Bogdan. I will be updating this topic as i proceed with the deck reparation. Unfortunately, i have done all i could with my technical knowledge, so the next steps will be after my repair man is available.

nevone - 2011-04-13 02:00


As an update for this thread. I just got my funken back from my friend the electrician. He made an awesome work. Restored the cassette deck mechanism, and changed every capacitor of the box (around 80 capacitors). Every switch was unmounted and cleaned. The parts telefunken body served its purpose well.

Now, my hifi studio works like new and i-m not expecting any problems for the next 20 years or so

He even made pics during the process. Here-s some:



















doppelohr - 2012-03-30 05:56

hello nevone,
 
you wrot a very useful description. thank you so much.
one point of it is very interesting to me and i want to know more details about it.
i do have the same problem with the bulbs. so one of them in my box is busted too and i like to change all of them behind the meters. i am not an electronic technician but i think i am able to fix it with the help of your experiences.
what parts did you use to let it look so uniformly and let them shine with the same brightness.
did you use leds with resistors ? please tell me the exact technical details of the parts and their positions.
 
thank you for your time you spend.
 
best regards
doppelohr from germany
 
  
Originally Posted by NevOne:
First of all, it seems that the two differences between Studio 1 and Studio 1M are that the styling of the vu-meters (1 haves round scale and 1M haves in-line scale) and the fact that 1M haves FM till 108 while 1 haves FM going till 104. If there are any differences, please let me know.

I like this German engineering very much. The unit is very easy to disassemble. Already done that 5-6 times.

My unit have no working cassette deck so i assumed that it-s missing.
As i bought another studio 1 body for parts, i disassembled first that one and pulled out the belt. The bad thing is that you cannot see if the belt is missing before removing all the cassette deck mechanism.
The belt is around 13 centimeters in diameter, and 5mms thick (see picture)


I-m going to make this post about the disassemble process, telling my adventures on the side.

First: the back. It is very easy to take apart. After removing the speakers and the antenna chord, there are 4 screws on the sides that hold the entire thing. (Place marked as A on the back picture)

However, if you want to pull out the cassette deck mechanism, things get a little bit complicated. The mechanism is hold together by 2 screws on the back (marked as B on the back picture). One is easy enough to reach, but the other unfortunately is very hard to reach without removing the radiator. I managed to pull it out with the help of a pair of tweezers. And to complicate things even more, the play and stop (marked as C)are attached to the board with plastic parts. One you have to push, and the harder to reach, you have to pull. In order to do that, make sure it is in the UP position.

The front is easy to take apart too. First, you have to remove all the switches, and for that you need a 5mm sized star (inbus) screwdriver. After that (marked with arrows) there are 4 screws on the side and one in the bottom, in the battery cover.
In order to pull out the k7 mechanism, there are 5 screws to unscrew, in places easy to reach. Note that the screws from the top are covered by the k7 buttons. (marked as rounds on the front picture)


The belt from the tape counter is very easy to replace, provided that you have one of the right size. In my two units, i did not have one in one piece so i cannot say what size is needed, i guess i will have to try different sizes at a later time. The position of this belt is marked with red in the k7 mechanism close up.


An interesting feature is that you can tell the approximate production date of the unit by looking at the date written on the motor. It seems that my two units have been produced at a difference of 1 month.




Now to get back at my story, i have removed the k7 mechanism. Once removed, the belt is protected by a metal plate hold together by 3 screws, straight forward from this on.
To my surprise however, the belt was on his normal place. And since i have electrical current in the two wires connecting the k7 motor, i can only think that my motor is busted. I have another that i know works, but i will hold this operation on and submit everything to a friend that is more skilled than me.


I put everything together back again (putting back the k7 mechanism is more difficult than pulling it off) and i have used this occasion to change the face plate from the brown one to the silver one. It seems that it looks better, even if it haves a dent in the upper left side. Used the protection bars from the brown one since they were in better shape. Here-s the result:


Here is also some of the led work i have previously done on the unit. The leds are polished in order to spread the light more uniformly (they were focused on one point by default)

I welcome your comments. Still have a lot of work with this unit, but i-m getting there one step at a time.

nevone - 2012-03-30 11:51

Hi Doppelohr,

 

Forgot to mention the trick.

I used yellow Leds instead of bulbs.The white ones just took away that old skool feeling.

Being that the leds work at a lower voltage, they also needed resistors (not sure about the capacity as I have asked a friend to help me with that)

Also, leds have a pointy focus head which i scrapped off with some sandpaper to make them glow in a uniform way.

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doppelohr - 2012-04-07 04:39

hello nevone,

i did find a matching bulb by trying out some single bulbs of different light chains. the first 2 i tried busted immediately. the 3rd one was the right. i am very happy about it. my problem right now is to fix some broken push buttons and the broken assy. very sad.

bye

doppelohr

nevone - 2012-04-08 01:00

Broken chassis? try this:

I know it is not elegant however it will do the trick.

Those 80s plastics had lived way beyond their life limit...it is to be expected that they break down

radarca - 2013-01-04 17:52

Just posted my experiences replacing the bulbs in my 1M in another thread, but note another difference between it and the Stdio 1 pictured here.  Mine only has one bulb that shared for both VU meters.  I replaced it with a standard 12v bulb, and since behind a shield casts the right old school look.

 

Rob

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brutus442 - 2013-01-04 18:06

Well done Rob. These Telefunken's are rock solid units. It nice to see it back in form!

 

Kudos!

radarca - 2013-01-04 18:23

Its been sitting in my basement for 6 months and I only initially cleaned it up with intentions to sell it, however the sound is incredible and it's really grown on me...think I might have to keep it now!.

 

Rob

samovar - 2013-10-25 09:28

Originally Posted by radar_ca:

the sound is incredible and it's really grown on me...think I might have to keep it now

nothing can beat the sound of this box, a keeper by all means

nevone - 2013-10-25 09:29

You most definitely should keep it.

samovar - 2013-10-25 09:33

btw, great job NevOne!

nevone - 2013-10-25 10:46

thank you! checking the date, that was two years ago...how time flies when you having fun!

Since then, I have now two Telefunkens hifi studio 1 and the body of a third one for parts. Best boomers in my collection.

xheni - 2013-10-26 08:50

Hello everybody! Has anyone of you an idea what is the voltage and watts of the bulb behind the radio-signal/battery signal meter as it has busted in my Telefunken 1? It is different (smaller) from the two lower lights behind the VU meters. I cut off the wires and pulled out the bulb which is shown in the attachment but there's no information on it about the voltage! 

Does anyone of you had the same experience and how did you manage to replace it? I was thinking to replace it with a normal 12 v bulb but I am not quiet sure if that's the right voltage!!!

Waiting for your suggestion and help. 

Thank you. 

mtache - 2015-07-02 19:43

I know this post is mad old, but I have a question / problem.  I'm a beginner so it's probably the obvious.

 

Anyways I've opened up my TeleFunken Studio 1M to change the belts (counter belt missing and motor belt semi-loose).  I failed to take photos as I disassembled the cassette deck to replace belts (play, FF/RW, etc were all VERY SLOW).  There were these 2 plastic (semi-transparent) vertical pieces that were attached attached to the deck (see photo) and connected into a board in some way.  I have no clue anymore and can't figure it out.  I have attached some photos.  Can anyone please tell me how I attach this?

 

Also, if anyone has any idea on any other obvious issues that could slow down my deck as described.  I'm hoping its the belt, but not sure.  I'm waiting for new belts. Also how do you attach the counter belt?  I see the counter belt wheel groove (shown in one photo), but where does the belt connect to the cassette deck?

 

Thanks for any input!  Anything will help me...seriously.  I have a manual that doesn't give much information.  Much is in German as well.  

 

Stay blastin....

 

MT

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mtache - 2015-07-02 19:44

Oh and sorry.  I know this is old....but wanted to see if its better to add to an older posting than start a new one.

nevone - 2015-07-03 01:25

Hello Mtache,

 

Yes, this topic is old but I am still here

 

I have 3 Funken Studios and the belt was good in all of those.

It is a quite sturdy belt, 3-4 mm wide and flat, and I would be very surprised to see it fail.

The tape counter belt will probably fail but not the main belt.

You might have a different issue, some of the gears of the funken become frail with time and in one of mine they broke in a few places. You might have a gear with missing teeth.

Also look for a motor speed regulator, I haven't open one in quite a while and not sure if it does got one.

mtache - 2015-07-03 01:44

Thanks for the reply Nev!  I'll check tomorrow to see if I see an issue with any of the gears and look for a speed adjustment on the motor (generally a flat head adjustment, right?)

 

Do you know where those transparent pieces connect into the box?  I believe one may be for play and the other record.

 

Also, do you know where on the deck, the belt counter belt groove is?  I want to get the belt counter working as well.

 

I'll get back to you on what I find.  Thanks again for the reply!

 

-MT

 

 

mtache - 2015-07-03 14:29

So I've taken some more detailed photos showing the components under the metal case.  You can see the small gear attached to the spindle (typical for both).  The teeth are very small, but they appear evenly spaced and uniform in length.  Unless the gears have been "stripped" from so much use....which has caused wear on the teeth...I don't see the problem here.

 

(Excuse me for the next part because I'm learning)....So....the flywheel has a rubber gasket at the bottom (see photos).  This turns one of the tape spindles (via the aforementioned gear).  The tape spindle in turn rotates that circular plastic piece shown in the center of the two spindles.  This plastic piece has a rubber gasket if you can't tell. What does this spin for?  I cannot tell?  How does the other spindle rotate (I don't see how the gear for this spindle could ever be engaged)?

 

Help is very much appreciated.  There is nothing online so I'm at a standstill.  Does anything look wrong with my deck?

 

Also, all responses to my follow-up questions in my message above is very much appreciated.

 

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mtache - 2015-07-10 23:49

Any help on any of this?

 

The pinch roller is perfectly circular and there are no cracks.  It does look like it is in good condition as far as I can tell....so let's hope it is the belts.

 

The other question I have is on the speed adjustment on a capstan motor.  I have this hole on the back on the motor which has a thin plastic "sheet" over it.  See the photo.  I tried sticking jewelers screwdrivers and allen keys.  I can't tell if anything is turning down there....but with the jeweler screwdrivers a couple appear to be "catching" very lightly.  I won't be able to tell until I get the belt.  Any idea if this is for speed adjustment?  Is righty, faster or slower (righty tighty)?  Will it continue to turn in either direction infinitely...because mine doesn't seem to hit a point where the screwdriver won't continue in a both directions?

 

Can someone please answer the following, which I've previously asked in a previous post:

 

So that I can get her plugged back in to test the deck, I need to clamp those two plastic "columns" shown.  They somehow connect (from the front) into a board.  Any ideas?  They just slipped / unclipped very easily. I can't find any help on this.  

 

All help is very much appreciated.  I think since the gears appear to be fine...I want to tinker with motor adjustment if belt change doesn't solve the problem.  

 

I'll take photos of her once she is working.  

 

I appreciate all help!

 

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