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Sharp GF-9191XR noise from right speaker

farid - 2013-08-11 02:58

Hi!

 

I'm a happy owner of 30 year old GF-9191XR which my dad bought back in old good days. It's in a good cosmetic shape but unfortunately it has a problem with sound reproduction. At the beginning there was loud crackling sound from right speaker, even when volume sliders were at 0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t42w0Ct2hsw

Then I removed rec/pb switch and cleaned it thoroughly. Though this unpleasant noise disappeared there was still some noise coming from the right speaker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ur1nUpjKb0

I tried to clean switches with Kontakt 60 to no avail. Then I decided to isolate problem. I've disconnected audio amplifier inputs by desoldering pin 8 of both left and right channels. When I connect speakers back I hear same LOUD crackling noise from right speaker but left speaker is silent. If I ground input pin of the right channel amplifier noise is gone. I'm lost at this point. What should I look for?

Thanks!

farid - 2013-08-11 03:10

I mean at first when I'd disconnected right channel input high noise from only this channel suggested there was a problem with amplifier circuit. But when I ground input noise is completely gone and it means amplifier is OK? I'm confused

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elektroneko - 2013-08-11 03:43

Well uhmm... Do you have a balanced stereo sound out of both speakers now?

 

docs - 2013-08-11 07:00

Hi, I can't quite follow what you did but do you a) have same issue when switched to mono as stereo and b) in headphones ?
Also do all voltages check out correctly on the IC?

driptip - 2013-08-11 07:05

usually if i clean the switches will take care of that, but this seems to be a more complicated issue. 

farid - 2013-08-11 12:32

Originally Posted by ElektroNeko:

Well uhmm... Do you have a balanced stereo sound out of both speakers now?

 

Yes, even at 15-20% volume this noise gets masked by music. But it's just annoying to know that there's something wrong.

farid - 2013-08-11 12:34

Originally Posted by docs:
Hi, I can't quite follow what you did but do you a) have same issue when switched to mono as stereo and b) in headphones ?
Also do all voltages check out correctly on the IC?

a) Yes, even in mono mode I can hear noise from right speaker only.

b) Yes.

 

I'm not sure about voltages though. I've ordered ESR meter and will check caps as soon as I get it. Also I'll try to swap inputs to amplifier to see if the noise is persistent in one amplifier or it's some other circuitry.

farid - 2013-08-11 12:34

Originally Posted by driptip:

usually if i clean the switches will take care of that, but this seems to be a more complicated issue. 

I don't think it's switch at this stage. Swapping input channels would probably prove it's amplifier problem.

docs - 2013-08-11 12:58

Slow down with the desoldering and swapping inputs. You just need a digital multimeter to check voltages as per the circuit diagram you have. I am pretty certain that will tell you if there is a problem in the preamp or amplifier stages. You could also do with a signal tracer, this will allow you to check where you are getting this weird noise and where you aren't and therefore isolating the problem area.

farid - 2013-08-12 11:02

Unfortunately checking voltages at IC pins revealed nothing. I just reverted to swapping inputs and as I would expected this proved problem is at amplifier section. Connecting speaker directly to IC output also gave noisy output. I don't think anything wrong with IC so most probably one of the caps do indeed suck.

metad - 2013-08-12 12:00

Try to clean headphones socket.

michiel - 2013-08-12 13:38

Like docs says. You need to trace the signal with a oscilloscope and see where it goes wrong. This is the easiest way to find the wrong component. Much better than guessing which cap could be wrong etc. 

jt.techno - 2013-09-25 02:04

Hi Farid - I have exactly same crackling from my Sharp 9191 that I hear in your video - you say you cleaned record/pb switch to get rid of initial crackling - are you referring to the record bar that sits behind the cassette mechanism or something else? I will have a go at cleaning the record bar but if there is anything else I should be cleaning then advice gratefully received, as a clean of top switches has not resolved the problem for me.

farid - 2013-10-23 02:17

Hi JT Techno,

 

Yes, I'm referring to the long bar behind cassette mechanism. Crackling sound is practically gone but there's still noticeably noise coming from one of the speakers.