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Lest we forget.WW1 11/11/11

penge - 2008-11-09 04:11

Did the church, and the memorial bit today.

I have just read a 300 pages (1/2the book)on the battle of the Somme but i couldn't handle anymore. An absolutely waste of young men lives for really no reason at all. The worse disgustingly 300 pages of any book i have read.

Very,very please to hear the vicar spend at least 15 mins on returning soldiers from war and the help that is needed for them, when returning home.
They get almost no help at all.
There in the UK they have been treated awful up until the last year or so.
There now is huge support raising from the public for them here, and even X factor in on the case.
In Australia we got treated 100 times better.
I,ve never worn my Vietnam medals. Not sure why. (Lost em for 10 years once.)
Found em in with the socks today.
Unwrapped the taped box had a look , my daughter recons they are NOS, go good on ebay!!

billpc55 - 2008-11-09 22:30

soldiers today are not treated very well.
there is something wich really bothers me about the whole thing with how badly they are treated.
i mean forget about the politics behind it all,thats not what i am talking about anyways.
no one wants peace more than the foot soldier anyone that thinks otherwise is crazy.
now how in the hell did we get to the point where we throw these soldiers away when they come back hurt.
used to be that all of thier needs medical care ect was met.
at least thats the way it was when the second world war ended. i mean most vets of ww2 in canada even were provided with housing wich was cheap for them to buy.
everything is wrong with how our society has decided to treat its armed forces. i think that this apathetic and disdainful attitude towards the soldiers is completely disgusting.
i mean how to did people come to look down on them.
lets face it many people do,that is just plain wrong.
i also feel disgusted with how many people will say things like i dont believe in rememberance day or why should i care about veterans.
ok so as i said forget about the politics of it all.
there is rotten apples in every barrel no doubt but for the most part soldiers want peace more than most people.
rememberance day services have seen a bigger turnout in recent years here that is a good thing.
its just all wierd and strange now.
war is hell and there is no bigger truth for a soldier.
sad that all those people that fought so there wouldnt be wars anymore didnt get the prize they were promised.
on 1111 at 1111 remember those who died in the great war and the others in all wars.
remember that it was thier goal to end all wars.

chancenellie - 2008-11-10 10:51

For those that say they dont care for rememberance day i say do you think you would have now in the "free" world what you have now if were not for these guys.They never started the wars but they were expected to go and fight for what they thought was right.All war is wrong,it breaks families,counties and nations apart but the guys of our armed forces still do what it says on their tin !!!!.I for one always show respect and give my minutes silence "no matter where i am " its more compelling for me as the 11th is my daughters birthday,she is 5 tommorrow and i stand and salute my great grandfather who died at the age of 23 in ww1,Sergant James Chadwick Winters who died storming a machine gun point in france which subsequently led to that battle being won and him being decorated.Whatever anyone thinks these guys gave the ultimate for us and that surely demands respect.

billpc55 - 2008-11-10 12:48

absolutely

penge - 2008-11-10 13:18

billpc55
chancenellie
absolutely

I will also be stopping for the 2mins silence.

billpc55 - 2008-11-10 19:32

as will i. i watch the old guy he must be ninety walk up the huge hill ever day here rain or shine. i mean i see him with his hat and his clothes. you can tell that he went through a lot from the scars on his face. sure time has hidden them well with wrinkles. now this hill is huge and every day he hikes up it no matter what the weather. i think about what he had to go through in europe during the second war.
two minutes and a chorus of the bugle on a rainy field is such a small thing to give back yet so many people complain.
i have many memories of soliders i met over the course of my life.
its a somber day but a important one.

penge - 2008-11-11 00:47

Nice story about the old guy billpc55.
In WW11 the women had a real hard time to.
My mum was in London and last year i got her to take me around the old places where she lived in the war.
Bombed here bombed there, running for the shelter, incendiary shells dropping like rain, while trying to get an old lady across the road and into the shelter "Come on Mrs Simms" (I walked the very same steps.)
Shelter now gone, it was in the basement of a row of Victorian shops.
Flying bomb hit it near the end of the war, 15 girls from the Bairb TV factory killed at the bus stop, there is still a bus stop there..
Hardly any food, water mains blown up Etc: Then bombed out again.
Think i went to a holiday camp compared with my mum. Looking after 3kids for her aunts as well and only 18, and it was the same for lots women in WW11.
Plus the fear of wondering what's happening to the men. I also got her to tape the day.
Yeah like they say, we don't know were born.

isolator42 - 2008-11-11 04:45

These many, many people have done, and continue to do something that I know I could never do (I'm ashamed to say).
They all have my utmost respect.

My kids paraded with the Cub Scouts to the rememberance service on Sunday & I made damn sure the 2 minutes silence was observed in my office this morning.
Both our cars wear poppies & I've lost count of how many of the usual poppies I've bought this year... Smile

It's unfortunate that the current level of global conflict means there are more people who need to be remembered at this time.

We should never forget.

billpc55 - 2008-11-11 08:52

the other rememberance day story i will never forget was the old soldier in his original uniform asking me to help him with his poppy.
i just gave him the spare poppy in my pocket.
the ammount of gratitude he showed for me giving him the poppy was something i will never forget.
i told him he didnt have to thank me that i was the one who was thankful.
i know that old guy most likely wont be down there at the ceremony.
i do know i will never forever remember that guy.
there is no veterans left from the first world war here that saw combat.
all of them are gone now. there is still a fair ammount of ww2 guys left but even they are loosing numbers more and more now.
my grandmother worked in a boot factory during the blitz and my grandfather served in europe ,as well as burma.
he was one of the soldiers that lived through the horror that was dieppe.
i find it really sad who many poeple just dont care.
the magnitude of both of those wars is something i just dont think anyone can really understand fully that didnt live through them.

walkgirl - 2008-11-11 09:15

Last ww1 survivors Smile

ghettoboom777 - 2008-11-11 18:36

Let us pray for all of the soldiers that fought for our freedom!
I prayed for them at 11:11am this morning.
We should honor and respect them without any hesitation!
Without them we would live in a world of apathy and domination and possibly anarchy.

So today is a special day and always remember!!
God bless our veterans and our soldiers-no matter what country your in!-Ghettoboom777. Smile