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hifitom - 2009-01-13 10:03

Hello

Since a few years I try to concentrate my collection on the Hifi-Ghettoblasters. I know that there are not many firms which build those great pieces of engineering. I buy/bought a lot of bboxes just to find out how the sound is. At the moment I mark time - I don't find any other Hifi-bboxes ...

So: is there somebody out there who could help me, somebody who got a complete collection?

I don't talk about a Sharp GF 777, Marantz PMS 7000, or other great bboxes, or, bboxes which say that they are Hifi but you can't hear it (Siemens RS 806, Sharp 5000, Hitachi TRK-9990, Uher power port 1) .... I just want the Hifi-units ...

So is there something next to the Telefunken M1, HP 800, CC 9000, the Grundig Party Center 2000 hifi, Uher mini port hifi, Universum Senator 1000 hifi, Mars JH 100 hifi, Rotel RPM-10, Kenwood DC-20 (El Poco), Loewe mini pack 5000 hifi, Wega privat modul 33, ...

Please help me!

Thanks and best wishes
TOM

prime - 2009-01-13 15:11

Here's two boxes that will compare with Studio 1.
They are the best sounding in my collection.
Both have powerful bass that is Kaboom-like. The sound is
crystal clear with excellent imaging that will envelope the listener
like no other boombox. imho The CK-7 really pulls ahead of the Studio 1
with the help of its ribbon tweeters.

To be fair I will note that on a quiet FM station the Studio 1 has a slightly
better signal to noise ratio.

These units are usually hard to find and will
need a refoam but its well worth it.

Brett

Pioneer CK-7 with CS-11 speakers

The Back


Pioneer CK-5 with CS-7 speakers

redbenjoe - 2009-01-13 15:33

tom --i agree with prime on the smaller pioneer -
never have heard the big #11-

also --the 20 year old AIWA COMPO sets are most definitely HIFI --

member agent orange has them in the UK --
you have a much better chance at finding these over there --than usa members do, around here.

oldskool69 - 2009-01-13 17:21

The Hi-Fi Boxes I have that I feel will pound it out and hang with the Studio-1 and such for clear balanced sound and such are:

Pioneer CK-5F
Sansui CP-7,CP-5, & 99W
Sony FH-5
JVC PC-55
Panasonic RX-C100,RX-C300, & DT-680
Sharp WF-939z

And if high power is a must...

Pioneer CK-5F
Sony FH-5
Pioneer RX-C300
JVC PC-55
Sansui CP-7 & CP-5
Sanyo C9

Smile

panabox - 2009-01-13 17:36

quote:
Originally posted by Prime:
Here's two boxes that will compare with Studio 1.
They are the best sounding in my collection.
Both have powerful bass that is Kaboom-like. The sound is
crystal clear with excellent imaging that will envelope the listener
like no other boombox. imho The CK-7 really pulls ahead of the Studio 1
with the help of its ribbon tweeters.

To be fair I will note that on a quiet FM station the Studio 1 has a slightly
better signal to noise ratio.

These units are usually hard to find and will
need a refoam but its well worth it.

Brett

Pioneer CK-7 with CS-11 speakers

The Back


Pioneer CK-5 with CS-7 speakers


How do these compare to my all time favorite: Panasonic's RX-DT680 in bass (deep bass), and power? ANd how many batteriws do they take? They look like minisystems.

oldskool69 - 2009-01-13 17:39

Takes 10D's. Will far outpower the DT-680. But...at normal volumes the DT-680 will go with it blow for blow. Nod Yes

moncheeto - 2009-01-13 17:44

love those pioneer Nod Yes

panabox - 2009-01-13 17:56

quote:
Originally posted by hifitom:
Hello

Since a few years I try to concentrate my collection on the Hifi-Ghettoblasters. I know that there are not many firms which build those great pieces of engineering. I buy/bought a lot of bboxes just to find out how the sound is. At the moment I mark time - I don't find any other Hifi-bboxes ...

So: is there somebody out there who could help me, somebody who got a complete collection?

I don't talk about a Sharp GF 777, Marantz PMS 7000, or other great bboxes, or, bboxes which say that they are Hifi but you can't hear it (Siemens RS 806, Sharp 5000, Hitachi TRK-9990, Uher power port 1) .... I just want the Hifi-units ...

So is there something next to the Telefunken M1, HP 800, CC 9000, the Grundig Party Center 2000 hifi, Uher mini port hifi, Universum Senator 1000 hifi, Mars JH 100 hifi, Rotel RPM-10, Kenwood DC-20 (El Poco), Loewe mini pack 5000 hifi, Wega privat modul 33, ...

Please help me!

Thanks and best wishes
TOM

How much emphasis do you put on bass. I'm not talking about the hard boomy midbass but rather the soft, subtle, low passages (think Pipe Organ). How well do the boxes you mentioned do with this kind of bass? Thanks!

panabox - 2009-01-13 18:03

quote:
Originally posted by oldskool69:
Takes 10D's. Will far outpower the DT-680. But...at normal volumes the DT-680 will go with it blow for blow. Nod Yes

This is where I get confused. Cause it seems that the Dt-680 certainly has the power to push some serious air (for a bbx) at max volume with the low frequencies, but at the same time seems overworked with the less powerful midbass. Just dosen't make sense to me. Confused

panabox - 2009-01-13 18:28

quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
quote:
Originally posted by oldskool69:
Takes 10D's. Will far outpower the DT-680. But...at normal volumes the DT-680 will go with it blow for blow. Nod Yes

This is where I get confused. Cause it seems that the Dt-680 certainly has the power to push some serious air (for a bbx) at max volume with the low frequencies, but at the same time seems overworked with the less powerful midbass. Just dosen't make sense to me. Confused


Okay I'm no electrical engineer here but I've been thinking. (imagine that). Maybe there is a resistor or something that prevents the amp from allowing the midbass to come thru at full force. Maybe the resistor is for some reason rated unnecessarily high? Does this even make sense, cause I'm just thinking outloud and rambling here.

jlf - 2009-01-13 18:30

I absolutely love your collection Prime!

Great design! That they sound good too is only a bonus!

oldskool69 - 2009-01-13 18:55

quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
Maybe there is a resistor or something that prevents the amp from allowing the midbass to come thru at full force. Maybe the resistor is for some reason rated unnecessarily high? Does this even make sense, cause I'm just thinking outloud and rambling here.


The audio circuit has a lot to do with how equipment sounds. Unlike older equipment that used caps to control sound, you have more logic and logarithmic controlled sound. Especially with CD players.

panabox - 2009-01-13 19:12

quote:
Originally posted by oldskool69:
quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
Maybe there is a resistor or something that prevents the amp from allowing the midbass to come thru at full force. Maybe the resistor is for some reason rated unnecessarily high? Does this even make sense, cause I'm just thinking outloud and rambling here.


The audio circuit has a lot to do with how equipment sounds. Unlike older equipment that used caps to control sound, you have more logic and logarithmic controlled sound. Especially with CD players.

Okay, let's say that I came to you with my DT-680 and said the following:
" Battery life is not a high concern but bass power, and clean sound is far more important. Please make my pana produce the midbass as well as it does the low bass".
What modifications or alterations would you do to the circuits and stuff?

hifitom - 2009-01-14 02:32

Hello

Thanks for your suggestion - the Sansui is already on my list, and I also put the Pioneer CK-7 / CK-11 on top for my bboxes to have.

Hifi-Sound means to me:
I virtual stage infront of me, so that you could dive into the music + combinated with a full rage sound, what means to me: clear highs, a good punsh-bass and a subsonic-bass. The sub-bass is a must have, because without that there is something missing in the music. The JVC PC-series with the 3D-bass are great, but the virtual stage is complete missing.

I just bought a RX-690 - nice sound, but no stage and no real sub-bass. I think the speakers are to light, the walls to airy, to produce a sub-bass. A lot of air is coming out of the bass-reflex-port, so there is potencial. But if the walls moves with every bass-punch, they swallowing to much of the moved air. I wanne keep my bboxes original, no tuning, so this bbox got to go again.

To sum up: a real Hifi-bbox must surround me with sound = virtal stage + must have a juicy sound (inclusiv sub-bass) ...

Any other bbox which I should looking for?


Thanks for your help & best wishes
TOM

panabox - 2009-01-14 06:40

quote:
Originally posted by hifitom:
Hello

Thanks for your suggestion - the Sansui is already on my list, and I also put the Pioneer CK-7 / CK-11 on top for my bboxes to have.

Hifi-Sound means to me:
I virtual stage infront of me, so that you could dive into the music + combinated with a full rage sound, what means to me: clear highs, a good punsh-bass and a subsonic-bass. The sub-bass is a must have, because without that there is something missing in the music. The JVC PC-series with the 3D-bass are great, but the virtual stage is complete missing.

I just bought a RX-690 - nice sound, but no stage and no real sub-bass. I think the speakers are to light, the walls to airy, to produce a sub-bass. A lot of air is coming out of the bass-reflex-port, so there is potencial. But if the walls moves with every bass-punch, they swallowing to much of the moved air. I wanne keep my bboxes original, no tuning, so this bbox got to go again.

To sum up: a real Hifi-bbox must surround me with sound = virtal stage + must have a juicy sound (inclusiv sub-bass) ...

Any other bbox which I should looking for?


Thanks for your help & best wishes
TOM


Have you ever heard the RX-DT680?

hifitom - 2009-01-14 08:17

No, I had a RX-CT 900 and I still have a RX-DT690, the one with the 3-way speaker system. If I know it right that this one was the biggest of all the RX-series. But I must say, the bass on the CT-900 was as good as the 690 ...

Best wishes
TOM

peter.griffin - 2009-01-14 09:42

Hey hifi, yup the sound of the 690 does sound really "compressed", but I like that.

if you don't mind the "eggs", the Panasonic DT-75 or DT-707 is amazing. It really "fills" the room with what you are looking for. At least to my ears. You just have to turn the x-bass down a couple of notches.

And depending on your definition of "ghetto-blaster". The Sony FH-7 and the FH-707R are like home stereo's with handles. Just they don't run on batteries.

And don't forget the M90, it may not have "sub-bass", but it's really got room filling clear sound.

panabox - 2009-01-14 16:05

quote:
Originally posted by hifitom:
No, I had a RX-CT 900 and I still have a RX-DT690, the one with the 3-way speaker system. If I know it right that this one was the biggest of all the RX-series. But I must say, the bass on the CT-900 was as good as the 690 ...

Best wishes
TOM

what is the power consumption of the 690 rated at? I've heard some say 57 watts while other say 90 watts. What does the back of yours say?

oldskool69 - 2009-01-14 16:25

quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
What modifications or alterations would you do to the circuits and stuff?


Given that this is a Bi-Amped/Bi-Wired setup, it would be a difficult task to get the "blend" you seek. The series (all Bi-Amped) do not have a "true" crossover per se, but the signal path frequencies allowed to each amp are actually split "before" the amp is fed. The idea was to have enough of an overlap to be seamless. The realities, as you know, are that the woofer can only go so high and the tweet/mid so low. What you're looking for is that middle ground. And thus the EQ. But if you adjust it to compensate (depending on the music) what you really do is compromise. This is the story of every boombox out there. The only solution I can think of is to catch the signal before it is split to the amps and send it to a standard amp and feed through a standard resitor/crossover to the speakers. Smile

success - 2009-01-14 17:05

Talking about fidelity ... the Pana 5600 and the JVC 838 are good machines. They have good definition with all kind of musical programs. I'll preffer the 5600, because the bass is a little strong.
Also I have a National Panasonic RF-5410 (mono) with excelent sound quality. I've tested it through it's line-in with a CD player ... I'm still impressed with the quality and detail of the sound.
They aren't DIN45500 compatible boxes ... but sound nice for me.

johnnygto - 2009-01-14 17:22

I would love to own one of those Pioneers, they are really sharp looking boxes... I have never had the pleasure to hear one tho Frown

I guess most of my boxes are boomboxes, but wish I had some Hi-Fi in my life Smile

Johnny

peter.griffin - 2009-01-14 17:22

back of mine says 90w. But that has nothing to do with actual Output. The jvc M90 takes in 70w, and it's 3 times louder then the 690.

redbenjoe - 2009-01-14 18:44

hey tom --this is an interesting thread --and each of us deciding which boxes are or are not hi-fi Smile
want to add that imho -- the relatively small aiwa tpr #950 --when you hear one in good (not too used) condition --is also , by your parameters
a hi-fi box.

(its quiet hi-fi)

weelanddeal - 2009-01-14 18:53

is the jvc pc r11 considered ? i have nice one and i think im going to let it go .

panabox - 2009-01-14 20:32

quote:
Originally posted by oldskool69:
quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
What modifications or alterations would you do to the circuits and stuff?


Given that this is a Bi-Amped/Bi-Wired setup, it would be a difficult task to get the "blend" you seek. The series (all Bi-Amped) do not have a "true" crossover per se, but the signal path frequencies allowed to each amp are actually split "before" the amp is fed. The idea was to have enough of an overlap to be seamless. The realities, as you know, are that the woofer can only go so high and the tweet/mid so low. What you're looking for is that middle ground. And thus the EQ. But if you adjust it to compensate (depending on the music) what you really do is compromise. This is the story of every boombox out there. The only solution I can think of is to catch the signal before it is split to the amps and send it to a standard amp and feed through a standard resitor/crossover to the speakers. Smile

Thanks man! I don't quite grasp what you said just yet, but give me some time on this and let it sink in and I'll get it nonetheless. I'm good at being able to think most things through, even the things that I'm not necessarily familiar with. Thanks again!

panabox - 2009-01-14 20:36

quote:
Originally posted by peter griffin:
back of mine says 90w. But that has nothing to do with actual Output. The jvc M90 takes in 70w, and it's 3 times louder then the 690.

I gues the thing that I'm wondering is where does the extra wattage go in comparison to the 680? I know the 690 has mid drivers and all, but for it to be rated at 33 more watts than the 680 is a little peculiar, especially if some claim that the bass is less than on the 680. I know that wattage dosen't necessarily equate to sound, but it does have an affect to some degree right? Especially if both boxes in many respects are the same.

hifitom - 2009-01-15 07:35

I had a TPR 950,

nice sounding bbox with good bass for a one piece unit. There are a lot of great sounding 1-piecer out there, if they had more bass and a real sub-bass for shure some of them could reach the Hifi-norm. Like the Siemens I got in the selling area - a super sounding bbox, full imagin stage, great bass but the last punch is missing ...

I think a normal 1-piecer couldn't do a real Hifi-sound. Bass need space, and there is no space and room in a one piece bbox. Only thing I ever seen was a Toshiba RT-5910 S (nice looking bbox) with a extra bass-reflex section, but how this thing sounds ...? No idea, never heared one ...

Best wishes
TOM

jvc.floyd - 2009-01-15 08:24

the panasonic cobra tops are one piece boxes like the rx dt 707 ,and these boxes have great bass and highs more so than alot of 3 piece boxes .

hifitom - 2009-01-15 12:37

Jow jvc floyd

Never heard of this Panasonic cobra tops (or the 707). This sound very interesting to me! Do you have a picture of this bbox?

Thanks and best wishes
TOM

jvc.floyd - 2009-01-15 12:43

http://stereo2go.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1696027254/m/9731034106
these a few in this thread .

hifitom - 2009-01-15 13:01

Yeah, I know this bbox

and now I understand the "Cobra" (look) - but never owned one. If you tell me know that this thing sounds better than the RX-690 I gone find and buy one ... you know, I was realy disapointed of the 690 and I'm still looking for a great sounding Panasonic-unit ...

Best wishes
TOM

chordeater - 2009-01-15 13:52

quote:
Originally posted by hifitom:
There are a lot of great sounding 1-piecer out there, if they had more bass and a real sub-bass for shure some of them could reach the Hifi-norm.


Bass is for sure a very important part in the whole listening experience, but I think too that is the most problematic part: many times bass hides other frecuencies, especially mids, and I always tend to turn down the bass (or bass EQ bands) to the point that it don't conceals other frecuencies, and at the same times it provides body to the music. No more, but no less, just this point.
I think this is the most important question to get good sound from a boombox.

Best wishes.

Aser.

borny - 2009-01-15 16:48

Hifitom the philips D8778 may also be of intresst for you .
It has 3 way speakers in a wooden cabinet and is powerfull ( 120 watts ).

And for a BB this one has a real deep bass 60hz .

It is very close to HiFi.

peter.griffin - 2009-01-15 18:14

hifi, the DT75 sounds way better then the 690, and from what I heard the dt707 sounds better then the DT75. The bass on the dt75 is so heavy, I have to turn it down a couple of notches.

panabox - 2009-01-15 19:32

quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
quote:
Originally posted by oldskool69:
quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
What modifications or alterations would you do to the circuits and stuff?


Given that this is a Bi-Amped/Bi-Wired setup, it would be a difficult task to get the "blend" you seek. The series (all Bi-Amped) do not have a "true" crossover per se, but the signal path frequencies allowed to each amp are actually split "before" the amp is fed. The idea was to have enough of an overlap to be seamless. The realities, as you know, are that the woofer can only go so high and the tweet/mid so low. What you're looking for is that middle ground. And thus the EQ. But if you adjust it to compensate (depending on the music) what you really do is compromise. This is the story of every boombox out there. The only solution I can think of is to catch the signal before it is split to the amps and send it to a standard amp and feed through a standard resitor/crossover to the speakers. Smile

Thanks man! I don't quite grasp what you said just yet, but give me some time on this and let it sink in and I'll get it nonetheless. I'm good at being able to think most things through, even the things that I'm not necessarily familiar with. Thanks again!

So with this said, it would seem that the distortion of the midbass wouldn't be due to lack of power (especially considering it has the power for the low frequencies), but rather due to the mid bass freq. being lost in the signal diversion to the seperate amps. Is this what you are saying?

hifitom - 2009-01-16 04:40

Hello

To the Philips bbox:
I had a 8614, 8644, 8349, 8554, and for me the two real good units the 8734 and 8718 (same units, the 8734 got a douple tape). Those two are nice units, good sound but the highs and the sub-bass is missing. Philips-bboxes are like the ITT once - very good if you want so listen to it for long times, but not very dynamic.

The best of all is the 8814 to me: nice sound, a absolut beauty (!), one of the first bbox with a synthesizer tuner and all tape modes come over a extra LCD-diplay (like the GF-9595) on top of the bbox - great quality from every side: sound, build and optical.

I also know the 8778, nice bbox, even when the 120 Watts are "pmpo", not "real" watts ... but sound is ok, but it isn't a hifi-unit.

And that's the bboxes I'm looking for!

Is there a other bbox from germany (next to the Uher mini port hifi and the Universum Senator 1000 hifi) where the Hifi-DIN 45500-print is on the bbox???

Thanks and best wishes
TOM

jvc - 2009-01-16 05:57

Hi,guys. I think the JVc M80 is a very good sounding bbox and high fidelity.Also some mono bboxes sound pretty good like AIWA tpr 300 ,950 and old JVC NIVICo bboxes...

monolithic - 2009-01-16 18:34

quote:
Originally posted by Prime:
Pioneer CK-7 with CS-11 speakers

The Back


That's one of the most imposing/impressive pieces of machinery I've ever seen! Eek Cool

Man, I bet that thing weighs a ton! What are its dimensions and weight?

oldskool69 - 2009-01-16 18:48

quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
So with this said, it would seem that the distortion of the midbass wouldn't be due to lack of power (especially considering it has the power for the low frequencies), but rather due to the mid bass freq. being lost in the signal diversion to the seperate amps. Is this what you are saying?


Bingo! Nod Yes

You have to use the EQ to compensate, thus why it has one. Plus, though you may be giving up some low end, backing off the XBS will bring the mid-bass back into play. Smile

ghettoboom777 - 2009-01-16 19:19

Hi-I'll throw my 2cents in.
Now I have a lot of boomboxes but have a serious ear for music.
My JVC PC-55JW and C are the closest to hi-fi as I have.
The clarity is very good and the mids are great-espacially with the equalizer.
The only thing missing is real low bass to give it the true range of a HI-Fi box.
The clarity is very nice though and the power is very good.
I can go up to about 1/2 power and it is putting out some serious sound especially with the size of those woofers.
Ypu also have to realize thet this was made in 1984-1985'!
I haven't had the oppurtunity to hear a M90 or a Telefunken Studio M1.So I don't know how they compare.

Yes-Hi-Fi,where you have full range and depth of all frequncies,lows,mids and highs all balanced and powerful.Very hard to obtain considering the acoustics of these 1 piecers! The 3 piece's get closest.
I want to get a TelefunkenStudio M1!!
Great thread-GB. Smile Nod Yes

panabox - 2009-01-16 19:23

quote:
Originally posted by hifitom:
Hello

Since a few years I try to concentrate my collection on the Hifi-Ghettoblasters. I know that there are not many firms which build those great pieces of engineering. I buy/bought a lot of bboxes just to find out how the sound is. At the moment I mark time - I don't find any other Hifi-bboxes ...

So: is there somebody out there who could help me, somebody who got a complete collection?

I don't talk about a Sharp GF 777, Marantz PMS 7000, or other great bboxes, or, bboxes which say that they are Hifi but you can't hear it (Siemens RS 806, Sharp 5000, Hitachi TRK-9990, Uher power port 1) .... I just want the Hifi-units ...

So is there something next to the Telefunken M1, HP 800, CC 9000, the Grundig Party Center 2000 hifi, Uher mini port hifi, Universum Senator 1000 hifi, Mars JH 100 hifi, Rotel RPM-10, Kenwood DC-20 (El Poco), Loewe mini pack 5000 hifi, Wega privat modul 33, ...

Please help me!

Thanks and best wishes
TOM

Out of your list of hifi boxes that you like, which has the best low bass response and sounds the most powerful? And will you post a picture of your collection? I'd love to see them. Thanks!

hifitom - 2009-01-17 00:12

Hello.

I opened a discussion about "Hifi DIN 45500" a long time ago - most of the bbox are shown there. I just exchange the units, most because of the color (because silver-collored bboxes look much cooler).

Best low bass - Telefunken M1:
Nice, deep bass like from a biiiig subwoofer, only problem, if you listen to it loud the bass punch through.

Best bass with high power - Uher mini port:
This think is real great, like a real home-hifi unit, and you have also low bass.

Best middle-way - Grundig party center 2000 hifi + Rotel RPM-10:
Warm and fat sounding units - great hifi sound.

Best surrounding: Kenwood El-Poco, DC-20 + Telefunken M1:
But the Kenwood-unit have no real sub-bass, but those two units have the best high's (tweeters).

After collecting hunderts of bboxes, those are my favorites in sound: Telefunken M1, HP 800, the Grundig Party Center 2000 hifi, Uher mini port hifi, Universum Senator 1000 hifi, Mars JH 100 hifi, Rotel RPM-10, Kenwood DC-20 (El Poco), Loewe mini pack 5000 hifi, Wega privat modul 33 ... and I'm still searching ...

Best wishes
TOM

prime - 2009-01-17 09:56

quote:
Originally posted by MONOLITHIC:

That's one of the most imposing/impressive pieces of machinery I've ever seen! Eek Cool

Man, I bet that thing weighs a ton! What are its dimensions and weight?



That bad boy weighs in at a whopping 34 pounds(15.4 Kg)! Eek

22" wide 13 1/2" high 7" deep (56cm x 34cm x 18cm)

panabox - 2009-01-17 18:18

Hifitom,
I've been reading your posts and I must say that I definately share your passion. My primary concern is hifi sound, with powerful, deepbass. I like overachievers! And to find a box that can mimic the sound of a rack system is my ultimate goal. In your post http://stereo2go.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8306018954/m/2421035205/p/2
your first picture shows four bbx'x on shelves. In this picture, you have a box that sits below the Telefunken HP 800 hifi. It's either the Siemens RS 806 or the Grundig Pary Center 200 hifi. (I'm not sure how your number system corresponds to your pictures). Anyhow, the box has a browinsh, copper color with silver knobs. Can you post a close up of this box? How does it sound? Thanks!!

P.S. I hope you get a chance to hear a Panasonic RX-DT680. I'd love to hear your feedback in regards to its sound.

joe.cool - 2009-01-17 19:15

quote:
Originally posted by Prime:
Here's two boxes that will compare with Studio 1.
They are the best sounding in my collection.
Both have powerful bass that is Kaboom-like. The sound is
crystal clear with excellent imaging that will envelope the listener
like no other boombox. imho The CK-7 really pulls ahead of the Studio 1
with the help of its ribbon tweeters.

To be fair I will note that on a quiet FM station the Studio 1 has a slightly
better signal to noise ratio.

These units are usually hard to find and will
need a refoam but its well worth it.

Brett

Pioneer CK-7 with CS-11 speakers

The Back


Pioneer CK-5 with CS-7 speakers

Eek I'm almost at a loss for words...but the CK-7 is simply stunning! Having recently had the pleasure of experiencing the CK-3, I can well imagine how this beauty performs! Smile

l.lopez - 2009-01-17 21:03

I have a few HiFi boomboxes and another on the way thanks to HiFi Tom, He defeanetly gots the flavor HiFi boxes Smile.

l.lopez - 2009-01-17 21:07

Another Great sounding boombox is the Pioneer CK-5 cant wait to hear what it sounds like, Prime Time told me it sounds really good, I have the center unit, Primtime is working on my speakers for the center of the CK-5, They need refoam, Boy can't wait to hear this box Smile.

hifitom - 2009-01-18 00:06

To Panabox:
Take a look in these old discussion, I put in some better photos there (I think you are talking about the Uher mini port?): "Some new Hifi-Ghettoblasters and a few others ..." and "telefunken CC-9000". The Uher mini port was shown here, but my one has a total different speaker system (bigger bass, other tweeter) than the Telefunken CC-9000 ...

Best wishes
TOM

chordeater - 2009-01-18 00:57

quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
In your post http://stereo2go.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8306018954/m/2421035205/p/2
your first picture shows four bbx'x on shelves. In this picture, you have a box that sits below the Telefunken HP 800 hifi. It's either the Siemens RS 806 or the Grundig Pary Center 200 hifi. (I'm not sure how your number system corresponds to your pictures). Anyhow, the box has a browinsh, copper color with silver knobs. Can you post a close up of this box? How does it sound? Thanks!!


Hello,

below the Telefunken, The Grundig Party Center 2000 is shown. There are two versions, the bronce colored in the photo, and the silver of my avatar. My unit cames from HiFiTom, it was my first boombox, and is one of the most beautiful sounding boxes out there. Aesthetically, is one of the most elegant and beautiful boxes.
Radio reception is also very good (it's a Grundig). I agree with Tom that provides one of the best mids I heard from a bbox.

Best regards.

panabox - 2009-01-18 07:54

quote:
Originally posted by Chordeater:
quote:
Originally posted by Panabox:
In your post http://stereo2go.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8306018954/m/2421035205/p/2
your first picture shows four bbx'x on shelves. In this picture, you have a box that sits below the Telefunken HP 800 hifi. It's either the Siemens RS 806 or the Grundig Pary Center 200 hifi. (I'm not sure how your number system corresponds to your pictures). Anyhow, the box has a browinsh, copper color with silver knobs. Can you post a close up of this box? How does it sound? Thanks!!


Hello,

below the Telefunken, The Grundig Party Center 2000 is shown. There are two versions, the bronce colored in the photo, and the silver of my avatar. My unit cames from HiFiTom, it was my first boombox, and is one of the most beautiful sounding boxes out there. Aesthetically, is one of the most elegant and beautiful boxes.
Radio reception is also very good (it's a Grundig). I agree with Tom that provides one of the best mids I heard from a bbox.

Best regards.

Hey thanks! That sure is a nice looking one. And it has a digital tuner? Nice. How's the bass in comparison to a DT680?

hifitom - 2009-01-18 08:44

The bass from the Party Center 2000 hifi to the Panasonic DT-680 / DT-690?

Fat and juicy like you would expect it from a Hifi-unit. Great mid/kick-bass + enough sub-bass. It's like a Kaboom with hifi-sound, but more softer, smoother in the sound (+ full highs, mids + the best tuner which was ever build in a ghettoblaster - as I know is the synthesizer tuner a unit of the Satellit-series of Grundig) ...

I got the Kaboom in every day use, because the RC, CD and it's easy to handle (so my wife also got no problem with it). But when you hear the Kaboom next to other Hifi-bboxes I would love to kick it in the trash can.

Specialy that ACS for highs go on my nerves, becaues it doesn't work as it should be (to slow, not exact enough). And there is no stage at all! No surrounding sound, just a good dynamic in the bass section, like the Hifi-units I collect. But they combinate the dynamic with a great surround, Hifi-sound ...

Best wishes
TOM