Are Nippon boomboxes rare stuff?

Welcome aboard Ysnow! And swank Scoot!

Any mods?

Ive never seen a Nippon personally...

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"I only attempt to change the world in the appropriate World-Changing venues and forums."

Just so you know I laugh everytime I read that...

Not everyday common, like the major names, but not rare. Nippons show up on eBay on a pretty regular basis. As best I can deteremine, Nippon was just a marketing name that some long-lost importer slapped on boxes from various sources, including the Conion C-100, the "bolt box" and a number of others. Jens (*TPR*), whose boombox database lists everything, would show them all. I have three.

Hi ysnow!

Offtopic: Your Lambretta Lince?
Rare this time the modern Serveta series.
Just restoring this one:

Thank you!

I always hope to bring a little bit of joy to people around me.

Its a play on political correctness, not sure what it means to others, but thats why I decided to go with it!

Now, back to our regularly scheduled thread. Sorry for the hijack.

EDIT: VS, I love that! You should have a restoration thread about it in 'off topic!' I had a P200E in College, and just sold my Aprilia SR50R a few months ago...

The great Rising boxes were badged as Nippon also. Now THOSE are rare if you ask me.

Yeah, I agree. Some Nippons seem to be rarer than others. I've never seen a Rising 20/20 with the Nippon name, so I'd say (from my limited, unrelible experience) that it'd be a real rarity. I think my Nippon FS-2400 is pretty rare, too. But other Nippons, like the bolt box and the rebadged Conion C-100, while not everyday-common, show up on eBay with some regularity.

It looks like the Nippon name was once on a full line of electronics products, as these brochures show.








They also show the name(s) of that "long-lost importer" I mentioned in my first post: Fortune Star Products Corp./Nippon Industries Inc., 12 West 23rd St. in New York City.

Hey BB, can you get me a high-res scan of the Nippon logo??

Sorry, FD. Don't have the brochures. Just copied the eBay photos from an auction. So, I can't do a scan of the crown symbol in the logo. But I can do the next best thing: scan the name from an instruction book. Hope this helps (but probably not). At least the font is correct.

And just for fun, here's my Nippon (Conion) C-100FN:

That Nippon (Conion) is cool!!! What's the model number?

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Originally posted by baby boomer:

Damn....that one on the right is awesome! Vertically stacked tape decks, dual LED meters, black finish, chrome speaker rings, what more could you ask for? They even put reel tapes in for the photograph! Or did someone photoshop them in there?

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Originally posted by Fatdog:
That Nippon (Conion) is cool!!! What's the model number?

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Originally posted by Reli:
Damn....that one on the right is awesome! Vertically stacked tape decks, dual LED meters, black finish, chrome speaker rings, what more could you ask for? They even put reel tapes in for the photograph! Or did someone photoshop them in there?

Reli, I assume the reel cassettes shown in the eBay photos are actually in the Nippon brochures. That FS-777 is one beauty of a box, isn't it?!?

Thanks, BB!

Is Nippon the same company as NEC (Nippon Electric Company)?

wiki info:

Nippon Electric Company

NEC (Nippon Electric Company) was founded in 1899 and has headquarters in Tokyo, Japan. They are one of the world's oldest and largest designers and manufacturers of supercomputers, computers, electron devices, and communications equipment.

Their worldwide organizations employ approximately 150,000 people generating gross revenues of approximately $US 40 Billion annually (at Y124 = $US 1). They have 89 consolidated subsidiaries, 53 manufacturing plants and 440 sales offices in Japan. Worldwide we have another 39 consolidated subsidiaries and 49 majority owned subsidiaries having an additional 52 plants.

In North America, their high performance products are represented by HNSX Supercomputers Inc., which was founded in 1986 and is a wholly owned subsidiary. HNSX supports a growing number of customers in North America including weather forecasting/climate modeling, seismic processing, product engineering, university, and basic and applied research applications.

Their strong commitment to North America is visible through a network of operations located coast to coast that employ 8,000 people. These operations include 8 manufacturing plants, and research and development activities in core technologies, as well as sales and support facilities for our diverse product range.

In Europe their high performance products are represented by the NEC European Supercomputer Systems Operation (ESS). ESS maintains sales and support offices in Denmark, France, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, The Netherlands, and the United Kingdom. They have 4 major manufacturing facilities in Europe, research and development facilities, and numerous sales and support offices employing about 4,000 people.

In addition to NEC ESS, HNSX, and NEC Australia offices, specialist high performance computing representation is available at NEC offices in Singapore and Sao Paulo, Brasil; as well as throughout Japan.

Their unique multinational operating model allows them to provide industry-leading response to their customers needs throughout the world. Their sales, support, and business operations are global in scope and provide unsurpassed opportunities to continue serving satisfied customers.

NEC was at the forefront of the computer revolution when the late Koji Kobayashi, then chairman of NEC, first advocated the integration of computers and communications in 1977 when he coined the phrase "C&C".

Since then, by providing a balanced combination of three major operations - computers, communications, and electron devices, they have the technical and corporate expertise to lead in the continuing development and integration of state of the art products in each of the three areas.

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Originally posted by Fuzzyduck:
Is Nippon the same company as NEC (Nippon Electric Company)?

I think I'm on pretty solid ground when I say, No. NEC was and is still a huge manufacturer of computers, telephones, and everything else listed in the article Jens posted from Wiki.

Back in the day, they made boomboxes, too. I own a mono NEC box. It says NEC on it. They also made an assortment of consumer electronics, like TV's, VCR's, tape decks, etc. And they made stuff for other companies. We used to have a Marantz-branded VCR that was actually an NEC underneath.

In the decades before that, NEC made some of the most beautiful and artfully designed transistor radios I've ever seen. Transistor radio collectors like me love 'em!

However, the "Nippon" name on boomboxes (as well as the rest of the stuff in those brochures) is just a brand that was stuck on electronics made by various manufacturers. Nippon boomboxes (and probably the other stuff, as well) were sold with other names on them, as well (Helix, Bon Sonic, etc.). None of them, as far as I know (and I'm open to being proven wrong), is an NEC underneath.

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However, the "Nippon" name on boomboxes (as well as the rest of the stuff in those brochures) is just a brand that was stuck on electronics made by various manufacturers. Nippon boomboxes (and probably the other stuff, as well) were sold with other names on them, as well (Helix, Bon Sonic, etc.). None of them, as far as I know (and I'm open to being proven wrong), is an NEC underneath.

Okidoki.
"NIPPON" means nothing else than "JAPAN"

originally:;land of sun origin

on the other hand:why not selling consumer electronic like siemens, tfk,saba,selling under their label.

The ct6000/6600 appeared as NIPPON and NEC.

The NEC LABEL is identicaly with the NEC label fom the upper mentioned company.

Also here you can see it`s the same company:

And here we see:the sanyei copany worked for the NIPPON trademark,



and the kasuga seiki company as well,

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Originally posted by *TPR*:
The ct6000/6600 appeared as NIPPON and NEC.

Well, I was wrong about one thing. There was at least ONE Nippon that apparently was an NEC underneath. There may well have been others.

But I'm not convinced that Fortune Star Products, who used the Nippon name on the electronics it imported into the USA from various manufacturers (like Sanyei and Coney Onkyo), had any connection to NEC.

The NEC and Nippon fonts are close (like Sony and Coby), but not identical. And the Nippon crown was never used by NEC. Maybe Fortune Star Products in New York wanted people to THINK they were getting an NEC when they bought a Nippon.

My conclusion (still): NEC and Nippon were different entities. NEC (Nippon Electric Company, Ltd.) was/is a huge Japanese electronics manufacturer. "Nippon" was just a name slapped on an assortment of imported consumer electronics made by various manufacturers.

(Hey ysnow... I'll bet you didn't expect all this when you posted your question! )

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Originally posted by JLF:
Welcome aboard Ysnow! And swank Scoot!

Any mods?

Ive never seen a Nippon personally...

Hi, thanks mate! yeah I was a Mod in the nineties!!! I like these 80s servetas, this one's from spain actually!!!

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Originally posted by ViennaSound:
Hi ysnow!

Offtopic: Your Lambretta Lince?
Rare this time the modern Serveta series.
Just restoring this one:

Yes mate!!! well done!!!

Did you get it in Spain?

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Originally posted by baby boomer:
And just for fun, here's my Nippon (Conion) C-100FN:

nice one! where did u get it?

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Originally posted by ysnow:
nice one! where did u get it?

eBay... where else? Wish I had an interesting story to go with it... although I remember needing to file a dispute in order to get the guy to send it. I guess that counts as a story. Just not an interesting one.

It is actually! any story counts lol

ive just bought a 20/20 rising.... no interesting story either

This site about Manufacturers is well researched and usually it tells us the FACTS:

Nippon Electric Company (NEC)
One of the largest Japanese electronics companies and the longest running, and has supplied electric and electronic components for more than a century and has production facilities on every (populated) continent. Pioneered the digital transmission of audio and manufactured the first commercial digital audio products in 1965 but has mostly remained out of sight to the consumers since the company has concentrated on the manufacture of components on one hand and professional, computing, communication and broadcast products on the other, that is with the exception of Australia where the company has for a long time been a supplier of both Brown Goods and other consumer products that have traditionally been produced locally. NEC has recently entered the consumer AV market globally with home theatre projectors and suchlike.

One of my favorite all-time transistor radio designs, the NEC NT-61. NEC's first.

Compare this "Nippon" AM/FM flashlight. Not as beautiful. And probably not made by NEC.

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fonts are completely identic....

Similar, but not identical to this:

I guess too -nothing else than a trademark

Look at the kind of trash the Nippon name is being used on today...

yo.

look here.

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Originally posted by *TPR*:
yo.

look here.

OMG!

It reminds me of how GE (which actually manufactures jet engines and CT scanners, and which owns the NBC television network in the USA) has licensed Thomson to use its name on mostly low-end home electronics. (Although I've heard that, while Thomson can use the "GE" name and trademark, it cannot use the full name "General Electric.")

Fortunately, as of yet, I haven't run across any "licensed" NEC products: not MP3 players, portable CD players, or crappy boomboxes. I suppose it's just a matter of time.

I remember the first time I saw the great Kodak name on batteries. I was stunned. "Since when," I wondered, "Does Kodak manufacture batteries?" Later I found out they don't. They just license the name.

But it's like that a lot these days. Famous brands on crappy items: Westinghouse on low-end walkmen sold at K-Mart, Sunbeam on lightbulbs, Polaroid on portable DVD players, and Dr. Pepper & 7-Up on lip balm!

We live in a new era of marketing.

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ysnow: Hi, thanks mate! yeah I was a Mod in the nineties!!! I like these 80s servetas, this one's from spain actually!!!

yes, mine was built in Spain, but came new to Austria.
Too sad that i sold my Innocenti LI125 special , the left at photo



But i think this needs a own thread...

HNY.Roman,nice Datscha,you`ve got there.
I drove such a v50 n in 83....



but that`s indeed another thread...

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Originally posted by baby boomer:
My conclusion (still): NEC and Nippon were different entities. NEC (Nippon Electric Company, Ltd.) was/is a huge Japanese electronics manufacturer. "Nippon" was just a name slapped on an assortment of imported consumer electronics made by various manufacturers

I'm second on this, Nippon - just a trade mark.

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Originally posted by baby boomer:
The NEC and Nippon fonts are close (like Sony and Coby), but not identical.

in my opinion they are not even close, sorry.

but Nippon and Sanyo fonts are identical, absolutely.
check "N" and "O".
who was the first? i think Nippon stole Sanyo font

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Originally posted by *TPR*:
HNY.Roman,nice Datscha,you`ve got there.
I drove such a v50 n in 83....



but that`s indeed another thread...

I saw these 50 special brand new in Italy. They re-issued them in the nineties!!! Beautiful stuff with 4 gears...

The ideal reclam for it:



When the original from ebay arrive, i will post it...