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The O General 3 Deck unit I bought

thebaron - 2013-12-04 16:22

A few of you will remember I bought a funky 3 deck O General unit a few weeks back off ebay. I have had two people look at it and it is "officially scrap" wrong parts in there, the use of tin foil over fuses has blown practically everything . Seems a few bodged repair attempts have gone on and the guy has said to ditch it . It is a shame as it is the only one I can even find on the net. But for £8 you win some you loose some!.

brutus442 - 2013-12-04 22:39

I hope the seller was perfectly clear about it's description before sale? I understand it's low price but still, honesty is a rare thing these days.

ao - 2013-12-04 22:47

This one?

 

michiel - 2013-12-04 22:50

Glad you overbid me and I didn't have to ship the wreck to here lol  Blow it up with fireworks so it's a boombox for the last time, don't forget to film it lol 

northerner - 2013-12-04 22:52

Send it to me and I'll mod it

michiel - 2013-12-07 23:31

There is one for sale about 10 kms from here.... He doesn't know if it works. Asked him to let me test it. The price is a little high, even when it's fully working. But well, we are collectors aren't we lol 

 

http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/au...&previousPage=lr

 

 

northerner - 2013-12-08 00:48

That price is a bit steep for what seems like a fairly low end box?...I do love the novelty of the 3 decks though as its bonkers

michiel - 2013-12-08 04:28

Yeah agree the price is steep. It would be a cool find for 20 euros, belts only  My money isn't burning in my pocket either. Have to see it in real first and make a decision then. Little amazed by the bid of 65 while its still unkown if it works. But hell stranger things have happened on that site.

michiel - 2013-12-08 14:19

Okay, call me crazy....but I just bought the box  Slightly less than the asking price, but she wasn't working. I have to fix this one tho. Have never seen anything like this! It looks so awesome in real  Not a cheap radio, but it feels heavy! It's made in Japan.

 

Checked inside. The woofer is a passive radiator and the speakers are rated 15 watts. They sit in an airtight compartment. Looks like I'm the first in there, so there is hope 

 

Will try to post pics later this week 

deliverance - 2013-12-09 04:56

i have a feeling there is more to this box than meets the eye 

samovar - 2013-12-09 05:12

Originally Posted by agentorange:

 

i quote from a member who lives in Dubai and sent me a message about the company which produced the box:

 

"It seems O is actually a symbol of the brand, which was placed along with the text General, which later became called as O-General. For some reason, O General is the most appreciated brand of A/Cs in this part of the world."

 

This would explain AO's pics, as well as the solid build of the box as verified by Michiel.

michiel - 2013-12-09 05:37

That's nice info samovar! On the back it says; "THE GENERAL CORPORATION JAPAN". There is some kind of O symbol in front of the brand name. Found out there is also an aka with the name "Rapor". 

samovar - 2013-12-09 05:48

Originally Posted by Michiel:

Found out there is also an aka with the name "Rapor". 

VelociRapor when in Fast Forward mode (so fast as to actually drop a "T") 

 

vitctorian_velociraptor

michiel - 2013-12-09 05:52

Haha nice one! Retro actually uploaded some pics of the Rapor!

 

 http://REPLACEMENT ERROR/tags/...5/selectedType/IMAGE

michiel - 2013-12-09 11:51

Hey Thebaron, check out the pics in this link! Im pretty sure its the same General we were bidding on a couple of weeks ago!

 

http://REPLACEMENT ERROR/topic...9#259683493435940549

 

The same scratches on top and missing levers etc

metad - 2013-12-09 13:22

Originally Posted by samovar:
 

i quote from a member who lives in Dubai and sent me a message about the company which produced the box:

 

"It seems O is actually a symbol of the brand, which was placed along with the text General, which later became called as O-General. For some reason, O General is the most appreciated brand of A/Cs in this part of the world."

 

 

The brand name 'General' really doesn't mean this box was made by company which produces airconditioners. 

 

Look at this "Kenwood"... and on the back plate you can see 'Trio Kenwood corp. made in japan'... but this box wasn't made by Kenwood, but made by Toshiba.

 

 

 

Kenwood CR-100

Kenwood CR-100_4

michiel - 2013-12-09 13:50

I don't think it's made by the obvious manufactures like we know them. Most likely this company did make some radios at some time. Here is some history about the brand. It's now Fujitsu.

http://www.fujitsugeneral.com.au/company/company.php

Bussy all evening investigating now. This radio really intrigues me 

 

Here a tapedeck with the same branding. 

 

http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/g...center_mc_1500s.html

seb968 - 2013-12-09 14:18

Originally Posted by metad:
Originally Posted by samovar:
 

i quote from a member who lives in Dubai and sent me a message about the company which produced the box:

 

"It seems O is actually a symbol of the brand, which was placed along with the text General, which later became called as O-General. For some reason, O General is the most appreciated brand of A/Cs in this part of the world."

 

 

The brand name 'General' really doesn't mean this box was made by company which produces airconditioners. 

 

Look at this "Kenwood"... and on the back plate you can see 'Trio Kenwood corp. made in japan'... but this box wasn't made by Kenwood, but made by Toshiba.

 

 

 

Kenwood CR-100

Kenwood CR-100_4

I love the look of that Kenwood / Toshiba  Is it an AKA of the RT-135s ?

samovar - 2013-12-09 14:40

Originally Posted by metad:
The brand name 'General' really doesn't mean this box was made by company which produces airconditioners. 

it does not mean the contrary either. as far as I know, O-General A/C is a joint-venture between a Dubai Company and the Fujitsu General, as pointed out by Michiel. The latter is a multinational with a galaxy of associates, so until we can determine the real manufacturer, we can accept as a working idea that the O-General box was produced by... well O-General

 

Originally Posted by metad:
Look at this "Kenwood"... and on the back plate you can see 'Trio Kenwood corp. made in japan'... but this box wasn't made by Kenwood, but made by Toshiba.

on the other hand, we all know that Toshiba too produces A/C. the plot thickens! it turns out that the genealogy of the O-General box -- and surely of the Kenwood too? -- "is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma" (W. Churchill)

michiel - 2013-12-09 15:07

Haha this is getting complicated Sam But the unit does remind me of a eighties American motel A/C unit  The same kind of thing you would also see in the Middle East. Maybe it isnt a radio at all... 2morrow I will post some pics of the beast so we can speculate a little further

thebaron - 2013-12-09 18:07

Yeah that looks my Scrapper, on the plus side if the other dude needs any bits I have them

 

metad - 2013-12-10 02:54

Originally Posted by samovar:
  as far as I know, O-General A/C is a joint-venture between a Dubai Company and the Fujitsu General, as pointed out by Michiel. The latter is a multinational with a galaxy of associates

This fact has nothing to do with boombox, and doesn't prove that boombox was produced by manufacturer of air conditioners.

 

 

 

metad - 2013-12-10 03:02

Originally Posted by samovar:
 so until we can determine the real manufacturer, we can accept as a working idea that the O-General box was produced by... well O-General

You see, the key word we don't know the real manufacturer. Everything else is suppositions. Until we can determine the real manufacturer, everyone is free to imagine whatever he wants But we still do not know the truth.

metad - 2013-12-10 03:03

Originally Posted by Seb968:
 

I love the look of that Kenwood / Toshiba  Is it an AKA of the RT-135s ?

Yes it is, you're right Seb

samovar - 2013-12-10 06:40

Originally Posted by metad:
Originally Posted by samovar:
  as far as I know, O-General A/C is a joint-venture between a Dubai Company and the Fujitsu General, as pointed out by Michiel. The latter is a multinational with a galaxy of associates

This fact has nothing to do with boombox, and doesn't prove that boombox was produced by manufacturer of air conditioners.

1. it has to do with boombox, as in the galaxy of Fuji associates there are also manufacturers of boomboxes, as implied in the passage you quote.

 

2. it seems to me that the one who wants to prove anything here is you metad  i and Michiel like to speculate. evidence requires the indicative mode, but Michiel openly says that "we can speculate a little further", and in my first post i used a modal in the subjunctive ("might explain") because (i quote):

 

“May” simply states the possibility or likelihood, while “might” emphasizes the conditional nature of the possibility, introducing a greater level of uncertainty.

source: http://afterdeadline.blogs.nyt...y-might-muddle/?_r=0

 

Originally Posted by samovar:
 so until we can determine the real manufacturer, we can accept as a working idea that the O-General box was produced by... well O-General

You see, the key word we don't know the real manufacturer. Everything else is suppositions. Until we can determine the real manufacturer, everyone is free to imagine whatever he wants But we still do not know the truth.

3. of course i see: it was me who pointed it out!

 

4. i have a very hard time to keep my imagination at bay, so i appreciate your concession that "everyone is free to imagine whatever he wants"

metad - 2013-12-10 08:15

Originally Posted by samovar:
 

2. it seems to me that the one who wants to prove anything here is you metad  

 

Oh no. Where did you see my intention to prove? I just wanted to refute statement, that "joint-venture between a Dubai Company and the Fujitsu", and the badge 'General' is enough to claim it was made by the same name manufacturer.

There is no need to prove it, cause there are hundreds of well-known samples.
And I posted the picture of the one of them - the Kenwood made by Toshiba, as an illustration.

 

And of course the statement "General is the most appreciated brand of A/Cs in this part of the world" has nothing to do with that boombox, and boomboxes in general.

 

 

  

samovar - 2013-12-10 09:31

Originally Posted by metad:
Where did you see my intention to prove? I just wanted to refute statement, that "joint-venture between a Dubai Company and the Fujitsu", and the badge 'General' is enough to claim it was made by the same name manufacturer.

to refute a statement is to prove it wrong. to add illustration is to produce evidence; that's where i saw your intention to prove. the point i am trying to make, however, is that my statement was never meant to be true, but funny; like all my other posts in this thread. hence: why bother trying to refute it? 

deliverance - 2013-12-10 09:34

metad - 2013-12-10 10:28

Originally Posted by samovar:
 

to refute a statement is to prove it wrong. to add illustration is to produce evidence 

 

Haha, Okay, I must admit I was trying to prove that high appreciation of the air conditioners by people of Dubai - has nothing to do with quality of boomboxes, and boomboxes in general.
LOL

But the quote you posted in you first message doesn't look like it was never meant to be true, but funny, does it? Hence, why trying to demonize my replies to your quotes?

 

samovar - 2013-12-10 10:46

Originally Posted by metad:
 

the quote you posted in you first message doesn't look like it was never meant to be true, but funny, does it? Hence, why trying to demonize my replies to your quotes?

here it is:

"This would explain AO's pics [have you looked at it carefully?] as well as the solid build of the box [the solid built, ie: like an A/C --LOL!] as verified by Michiel."

maybe humor here was not crystal clear. it was, however, in my second post on Toshiba's A/Cs; thanks of course to Churchill's helping hand!

 

Originally Posted by metad:

why trying to demonize my replies to your quotes?

demonize (i presume you refer to my subsequent posts) is a strong word. never the idea crossed my mind! since i couldn't make my point clear with you, i adopted your own analytic approach, that's it

michiel - 2013-12-10 11:40

Guys, I just send an email to Fujitsu General for any info about this radio. Lets hope they can tell us more about the background of this unit 

thebaron - 2013-12-23 14:06

Michiel, how are you getting on fixing it? you are more than welcome to any bits you need from mine free of charge. I will be scrapping it and just taking the belts out and the screws and stuff for random spares.

 

michiel - 2013-12-23 14:15

I did not start with it yet  Fixing an other box (M9994) at the moment. Are you maybe interested in selling the whole box to me? I would love to have that cover you got with it. Does it belong to the radio, or is it some home made thing?

thebaron - 2013-12-23 14:36

Hi

 

You can have it free of charge if you pay the postage, or collect it for free.. yep the cover is original to the box. No rush see how you get on with yours but you know it is here spares wise when you need anything .

 

michiel - 2013-12-23 14:47

Don't throw it in the bin yet! I have no idea what to expect when I start fixing it. But it's always nice to know that there are some parts available! Thanks a lot dude!