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billpc55 - 2009-02-04 17:49

continue to make a huge comeback.
many major label artists now are also releasing on vinyl.
in 2008 twice as many vinyl records were sold as the year before.
they are expecting twice as many to be sold this year as well.

oldskool69 - 2009-02-04 19:46

See my current avatar! Hoorah! Big Grin

billpc55 - 2009-02-04 20:10

yes indeed.
it is nice to see that the majors are finally seeing that vinyl is still a viable media.
it may remain smaller but there is enough people out there that still want the old stuff to keep it going.

sinister - 2009-02-04 20:49

VINYL FOREVER!!!

- 2009-02-04 20:49

Vinyl is great...When i was in NYC 2 years ago i couldn't even find cd's...every record store was %98 vinyl...and i'm being serious here. The other %2 were mixed cd's from local dj's...just crazy. Not only was it mostly vinyl, i thought it was neat that you could listen to ANY record you wanted first, before you bought it. The stores i went to ALL had turntables and headphones...i was in heaven Big Grin

-gsbadbmr

blaster - 2009-02-04 22:10

i think turntablism has a big contribution in keeping vinyl alive...

redbenjoe - 2009-02-04 22:28

quote:
Originally posted by SINISTER:
VINYL FOREVER!!!


have kept and played a pile of these since forever!!
bought em all NIB Smile as a kid

- 2009-02-04 22:35

Ira, you have been officially excused for miss- spelling my name in the past...i no longer blame you...it's the GORDY vinyl's fault Laugh Out Loud

-gsbadbmr

redbenjoe - 2009-02-04 22:59

Smilethat was a mighty hip label - back then

2steppa - 2009-02-04 23:20

I'm still very much of the view 'if I can get it on vinyl I will' rather than cd. (I can always make a cd from the vinyl for playing in the car etc..).
Nothing like sticking on the Sennheisers and settling in for a good ol' listening session Smile

So my vinyl collection continues to grow Cool

gluecifer - 2009-02-05 01:31

My only issue with new-vinyl is that most of it is recorded in digital studios and mastered digitally, so it misses all the analogue goodness of music recorded in an analogue studio the pressed/recorded to an analogue medium

But I get a bit silly about that kind of thing.

Anything that means more rekkidz about is good by me.



Rock On.

matrixambience - 2009-02-05 04:29

I never left vinyl!! Even thru the late 80's into the entire decade of the 90's....I always listened to vinyl!!

petey.awol - 2009-02-05 05:36

This is why i will take any vinyl record i find on my routes. My apartment is starting to look like a record store. However, I never find old reggae records....real reggae...that I wil have to record hunt when I do get the tables set up proper.

drmz - 2009-02-05 07:30

The record with the most sales last year was rane´s serato timecode record. More sales than any other record in the last FOURTEEN years! Thats sad news for all the real vinyl lovers.

- 2009-02-05 07:45

quote:
Originally posted by drmz:
The record with the most sales last year was rane´s serato timecode record. More sales than any other record in the last FOURTEEN years! Thats sad news for all the real vinyl lovers.


Yes & no. I love the fact that a lot of the dj's have switched to Serato...and you can't really blame them because lugging around crates of heavy records each nite is a PITA.

The good thing is, is that a lot of the old vinyl dj's are starting to sell off all of their vinyl for cheap once they get into Serato...so vinyl junkies have a wonderful opportunity to take advantage and get vinyl collections for cheap cheap cheap Big Grin

I tried Serato...and thought it was good, however i do much prefer having the actual record with it's original covers with the pics, the dates etc...

-gsbadbmr

eddy - 2009-02-05 08:02

I agree , vinyl will never die.
I still buy some vinyl. Mostly on Ebay.
This is a very cheap way to get some music (in a legal way Roll Eyes)
I think it's great that new releases come out on vinyl and i agree that the source tape (or whatever ) should be analog. I own a lot of CD's that are recorded way too loud ( clipping)
Analog equipment is better in coping a bit of overload than digital.
Vinyl forever !!!! Cool
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drmz - 2009-02-05 08:31

quote:
Originally posted by gsbadbmr:
The good thing is, is that a lot of the old vinyl dj's are starting to sell off all of their vinyl for cheap once they get into Serato...so vinyl junkies have a wonderful opportunity to take advantage and get vinyl collections for cheap cheap cheap Big Grin

-gsbadbmr


Jap, thats a nice effect but I also see, that lots of new tunes (in reggae/dancehall - the music that I play most) are strictly mp3-releases. just a few vinyl releases and you have to wait half a year to get them on vinyl. Many selectors switch to cd or serato to be able to play the newest stuff. And a major part of these mp3´s are illegal downloads. Hard to compete with serato selectors, when they have the newest stuff for free.

In the past it was the other way. You had vinyl promos before it was released to cd...

For me I decided to concetrate on the classic 90´s sound of dancehall and rap and buy lots of second hand vinyl. Discogs rules!

jt - 2009-02-05 08:50

quote:
I think it's great that new releases come out on vinyl and i agree that the source tape (or whatever ) should be analog. I own a lot of CD's that are recorded way too loud ( clipping)
Analog equipment is better in coping a bit of overload than digital.
Vinyl forever !!!!


What you are referring to is the "loudness war" where the music industry is compressing music further and further (at the expense of dynamic range) to put as loud of a signal on a CD as possible. Here is an interesting link that discusses this in more detail and provides graphic examples of waveforms: the Loudness War

Pressing a record with a loud, compressed recording pretty much defeats the purpose of vinyl. Basically, crap in = crap out.

However, some artists and sound engineers are recognizing this and are starting to use different masters for vinyl releases than they use for CD release.

I use Serato to play MP3s and WAV files via my turntables... and sometimes I even use MP3s that I ripped down from vinyl myself. When I do that, I am very careful to avoid digital clipping and the resulting MP3s are very true to the source. Some of that analog warmth does transfer to the digital realm.

eddy - 2009-02-05 10:02

Yep , that's why i use the Behringer in the pic.
My MP 3 s sound decent enough.
No clipping in the music here Wink

billpc55 - 2009-02-05 10:24

i dont know personally serato is cool,but honestly there is a lot of people who are sticking with vinyl.
i think serato is cool for a beat matching club dj. its just more practical.
i do not believe for one second tho serato is going to steal anything from the turntabilist scene tho.
records are still cool in those guys books. so yeah.
as for digital vs analog recording.
i am not even going to go there.
i have recorded both ways using the best kit from both worlds.
yes the best kit.
so yeah a good recording is a good recording analog or digital.
jt is right you do need to manage the master for it differently.
there is a lot of ways to make a digital recording sound great on analog gear.
same as a analog recording sounding great on digital gear.
its really dependant on how good a mastering engineer is.

jt - 2009-02-05 12:12

There are many, many turntablists out there doing scratch tricks with Serato, Traktor DJ and Rane's Final Scratch. Many of the tope names in that realm are converting. Much to my surprise, I've seen it with my own eyes at Winter Music Conferenc in Miami the last three years.

Such a program is a major benefit to any DJ who schlepps gear to a gig. Plus, for individual tracks you can save cue points for quick reference.

Another major advantage of Serato and the like is that you can beat the hell out of the vinyl and simply replace it with another time coded record when one wears out. Whereas once you muck up the actual record, its pretty much done forever... and many of those records can't be easily replaced.

Whenever I go to a gig with my Serato rig, I take about 40-50 records with me as backup.

Vinyl will never die for me. I just use serato to make my life easier and to keep using the tactile feel of spinning records. To me, when it comes to beat mixing, that is the most important thing.

litfan - 2009-02-05 14:43

My little sony ps-f9, has been in heavy use lately. Good old vinyl.

matrixambience - 2009-02-05 18:27

What is Serato?

sinister - 2009-02-05 18:37

serato

drmz - 2009-02-06 02:40

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_emulation_software

beatbox - 2009-02-06 03:37

I have always and still do buy vinyl. Spend lots of hours in record shops feeling, listening, enjoying that beautiful black stuff. My idea of a good night is hanging with my vinyl brother with a few beers spinning records till the early hours.

I LOVE VINYL!!!!!!

Playing vinyl and celebrating boomboxes soon at this gallery. Put together this flyer with the infamous 'Unilite' lighting up the area for the rest of the bad boys. Be there if you're near by!



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