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Just sold a radio "outside" of eBay

claret.badger - 2012-12-12 08:30

and the guy who received it says it is faulty as it "plays too slow" and "there are marks on the top" and "the ariel is a little dented" ! And he will cancel his purchase via his credit card

Did I misrepresent this radio?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290822...id=p3984.m1560.l2649

 

I think you can see it's a 240v AC unit

and it has wear and tare

 

I don't think he has a case for "not as described"

 

He's asked for my home address to return - but I've just told him to try and reverse the charge - as I will dispute

 

He's a dumb arse for not reading the description or not checking the photos

 

or should i be concerned?

 

northerner - 2012-12-12 08:44

don't see how he can argue over the cosmetics...the photos are really clear

 

if it were a uk non-ebay deal then he'd have zero comeback unless it wasn't as described as thats the only statutory right someone has with a private deal, don't know about US tho

traveler - 2012-12-12 08:57

Originally Posted by Claret Badger:

and the guy who received it says it is faulty as it "plays too slow" and "there are marks on the top" and "the ariel is a little dented" ! And he will cancel his purchase via his credit card

Did I misrepresent this radio?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290822...id=p3984.m1560.l2649

 

I think you can see it's a 240v AC unit

and it has wear and tare

 

I don't think he has a case for "not as described"

 

He's asked for my home address to return - but I've just told him to try and reverse the charge - as I will dispute

 

He's a dumb arse for not reading the description or not checking the photos

 

or should i be concerned?

 


only for the cassette playing a bit slow  

The text is clear & your picture's in are in your favor

 

nickfish - 2012-12-12 09:01

Surely he can't cancel his purchase unless he returns it to you? That is better known as theft! Ask him to make a video of it 'playing slowly' and see for yourself because if it is doing so I would say he has every right to return it for a refund. He will probably not bother, and is more than likely trying it on.

deliverance - 2012-12-12 09:28

looks like a honest enough listing to me nick ,  ebay is getting worse to many people trying it on if the deck was playing fine why would it all of a sudden start playing slow ?   tell him to return it mate .

bison - 2012-12-12 09:35

this is why i dont sell much via ebay.

i think your listing is spot on and like traveler says the only thing he can gripe about is the slow deck.

i would have said no returns sold as seen etc,

some people expect new stuff when its a thirty year old bit of kit

retrodos - 2012-12-12 10:05

Originally Posted by Claret Badger:

and the guy who received it says it is faulty as it "plays too slow" and "there are marks on the top" and "the ariel is a little dented" ! And he will cancel his purchase via his credit card

Did I misrepresent this radio?

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290822...id=p3984.m1560.l2649

 

I think you can see it's a 240v AC unit

and it has wear and tare

 

I don't think he has a case for "not as described"

 

He's asked for my home address to return - but I've just told him to try and reverse the charge - as I will dispute

 

He's a dumb arse for not reading the description or not checking the photos

 

or should i be concerned?

 


Texts looks  pretty direct to me, "In super used condition" and pictures look clear as day, you can clearly see the wear. More likely a idiot that fail to take the time to read the whole entire listing and overpaided for it.

 

Did ariel have a dent and cassette ran slow?

docs - 2012-12-12 10:22

The guy doesn't have any comeback or have the usual buyer biased protection from ebay.
Call your bank and warn them of a transaction that may be attempted to be reversed and they can block it.
Sick of tools buying stereos and then complaining that the tape runs slow, the aeriel isnt straight, the knob isnt round, the radio station they tune into plays shit music or it has a piece of snot stuck on the underside so want to return it. Thess assclowns do it to try them out then dont like what they've bought so plead the above. Dont even bother about it, by paying for it he agreed with your terms of sale and ebay can go fish, theres naff all he can do according to the distant sales act.

panasonic.fan - 2012-12-12 11:08

Radio pics and description are spot on, the tape deck speed can be easily enough adjusted. Offer him a slight refund ($50?), and he can take it somewhere to get the deck speed adjusted to his liking. His other complaints are irrelevant.

 

Good luck with the buyer, hopefully he will see the wisdom in working with you and be happy with his purchase.

 

 

claret.badger - 2012-12-12 11:16

i think you guys miss the point

 

he is trying to run a 240v machine off of 110v - of course the deck will turn slow!!!

samovar - 2012-12-12 11:21

for a while I added all the 7900 that showed up on ebay to my watching list. I wanted one too bad, that's it  I remember adding yours to the list too (although I didn't realized that you were the seller). Not even for a second I thought that the box was misrepresented. To me it was crystal clear that "In super used conditions", plus pics, didn't mean exactly mint. The one who bought it and now ask for refund is either a fool or a knave

bison - 2012-12-12 11:22

I seen that but thought surely he is not stupid,

the thing would be toast if you mucked about with the wrong voltage...?

samovar - 2012-12-12 11:22

Originally Posted by Claret Badger:

i think you guys miss the point

 

he is trying to run a 240v machine off of 110v - of course the deck will turn slow!!!

you serious???? i mean: he serious???

stereo.mad - 2012-12-12 11:26

Originally Posted by Claret Badger:

i think you guys miss the point

 

he is trying to run a 240v machine off of 110v - of course the deck will turn slow!!!

nick

tell him to stick it up his ass! i would

retrodos - 2012-12-12 11:56

Originally Posted by Claret Badger:

i think you guys miss the point

 

he is trying to run a 240v machine off of 110v - of course the deck will turn slow!!!


Shock the radio even works at 110v, he really f##k up their.

 

I would tell him since he clearly fail to read the listing, that sure you take it back, but he has to cover original and new shipping costs and a 15%-20% fee. 

johnedward - 2012-12-12 19:35

Sorry to hear all the headache.. evilbay full of it nowadays.  On a side note for future I have gone to taking a video of the Walkman am selling with daily newspaper showing date clearly in video SAME time as player running just fine.  I ship out the same date as the newspaper and video.  Thus if any jerk wants to say it does not work properly I have the video as absolute proof then only recourse is damage during shipping which I force buyers to get postal insurance at value of item sold.   

claret.badger - 2012-12-12 20:02

Originally Posted by JohnEdward:

Sorry to hear all the headache.. evilbay full of it nowadays.  On a side note for future I have gone to taking a video of the Walkman am selling with daily newspaper showing date clearly in video SAME time as player running just fine.  I ship out the same date as the newspaper and video.  Thus if any jerk wants to say it does not work properly I have the video as absolute proof then only recourse is damage during shipping which I force buyers to get postal insurance at value of item sold.   

this is my NEW must do for all ebay transactions

nak.d - 2012-12-12 20:34

Originally Posted by Claret Badger:
Originally Posted by JohnEdward:

Sorry to hear all the headache.. evilbay full of it nowadays.  On a side note for future I have gone to taking a video of the Walkman am selling with daily newspaper showing date clearly in video SAME time as player running just fine.  I ship out the same date as the newspaper and video.  Thus if any jerk wants to say it does not work properly I have the video as absolute proof then only recourse is damage during shipping which I force buyers to get postal insurance at value of item sold.   

this is my NEW must do for all ebay transactions

Too many retards out there. Clever idea J E, but shame good sellers like you have to do it

claret.badger - 2012-12-12 22:10

i've sold 10 boxes this month - this is the FIRST complaint

and it's a div who approached ME with an offer outside ebay - and being after cash I said yes (like a dolt)

 

davebush - 2012-12-12 23:27

Its plainly obvious nick your a conman

 

 

 

only jokin.............the guys an ass.......like most who try it on on the bay.....tell him to f off

ao - 2012-12-13 00:15

Sadly it's very much a free-for-all if you decide to sell outside of eBay.  You, as you've found out, don't have much protection other than to appeal to the guy's sense of fair play.  My advice would be to calm the situation down and offer the guy a small (but relevant) discount/refund.  I know it goes against your better judgement but the alternative will be a total refund for a potentially buggered box, plus shipping (2X), plus a lot of loss of face.  

 

If it's likely he's buggered it up with the voltage then you need to somehow communicate this to him & hopefully he'll understand, but if he's done this but doesn't want to admit it then you need to politely suggest that this is what he's done. 

 

As soon as exchanges get angry then no good will result, you need to remain calm and be nice, sadly it's the only way.

davebush - 2012-12-13 06:06

brutus442 - 2012-12-13 06:58

Sorry to hear a deal like this go south CB

 

My take on this is like AO stated

 

"My advice would be to calm the situation down and offer the guy a small (but relevant) discount/refund.  I know it goes against your better judgement but the alternative will be a total refund for a potentially buggered box, plus shipping (2X), plus a lot of loss of face. 

 

If it's likely he's buggered it up with the voltage then you need to somehow communicate this to him & hopefully he'll understand, but if he's done this but doesn't want to admit it then you need to politely suggest that this is what he's done.

 

As soon as exchanges get angry then no good will result, you need to remain calm and be nice, sadly it's the only way."

 

It'll also go along way in helping your case in a formal dispute (should it come to that).

 

How he missed the voltage is beyond me......I fear for mankinds' survival when stories like this surface.

 

claret.badger - 2012-12-13 08:11

he's told me he tried it "in his car"

and he nos(sic) the difference between 110 and 220 v AC

 

 

he sounds like a right Berkshire Hunt

deliverance - 2012-12-13 08:29

he sounds like a right Berkshire Hunt          he does that .

lav.loo - 2012-12-13 08:39

Originally Posted by davebush:

Its plainly obvious nick your a conman

 

 

 

only jokin.............the guys an ass.......like most who try it on on the bay.....tell him to f off

ha ha good old Arthur D, can't beat a bit of minder

claret.badger - 2012-12-13 08:43

George Cole used to live in my town

right miserable bleeder

 

"OI ARFUR!" we used to shout - and did he ever smile or wave back?

 

radio.raheem - 2012-12-13 09:56

Originally Posted by Claret Badger:

he's told me he tried it "in his car"

and he nos(sic) the difference between 110 and 220 v AC

 

 

he sounds like a right Berkshire Hunt

Sounds to me like he was trying it on 110v....what a cupid stunt...tell him to buy a step down transformer nick....available on ebay

panasonic.fan - 2012-12-13 10:22

You never mentioned that he attempted to plug it into 110.....

 

How does the deck run on batteries?

 

I think many here have given solid advice. Sell to those you know outside of Ebay, but that's it.

 

Sorry to hear this continues to be an issue. At least he can't trash your Ebay feedback.

 

teamstress - 2012-12-13 16:55

It was not misrepresented at all. The marks and the dent are visible in the pictures. Sounds like buyer's remorse. If he wants to return it, you might want to take him up on that and count your blessings. Then try selling it again. Of course there is the risk that it comes back smashed.

claret.badger - 2012-12-13 22:44

From: badgers-mount
To: xxxxx
Subject: Re:  xxxxx has sent a message
Sent Date: 13-Dec-12 00:32:00 GMT

Dear xxxxx,

I don't have time for people wasting my time and trying to rip me off

I want validation that it is "playing slowly" on the correct power supply - provide a video or an engineers report

You want to see this from my perspective

Paypal will back me on this - my advert is NOT confusing

- badgers-mount

 

 


From: xxxxxx
To: badgers-mount
Subject: Re: xxxxx has sent a message
Sent Date: 13-Dec-12 02:56:16 GMT

Dear badgers-mount,

will you pay for that?

- xxxxxx

 

 

 

From: badgers-mount

Dear xxxxxxx,

No

you need to prove that it doesn't work correctly

I know that there is nothing wrong with it - I tested this radio thoroughly - and did NOT want to sell it.

To stop further embarrassment and misunderstanding - can you confirm to me how exactly you are powering the unit?

I am trying to help here

n

- badgers-mount

 

From xxxx

 

Dear badgers-mount,

do not be ripped off,your item is fixed.as a proffesional you instolled wrong tape belt size.thanks

- xxxxxx

 

 


 

 

 

ROFL

docs - 2012-12-13 23:57

Typical dooshball

northerner - 2012-12-14 00:27

It's would be so simple for him to video it running slow on the right power supply, I'd happily do that if I had this problem...and absolutely it's up to him to prove. If he's not willing to do this then he's clearly bulllsh1tting. He needs to put up or shut up

claret.badger - 2012-12-14 01:45

i'm not gonna bother replying

 

I think he was trying it on - and he was busted

nak.d - 2012-12-14 04:57

Originally Posted by Claret Badger:

i'm not gonna bother replying

 

I think he was trying it on - and he was busted

Agree, I'd be surprised if he takes it further. Nice one Claret.

bison - 2012-12-14 04:58

looks like he was trying it on,

good on you mate for not caving in and giving him a refund,

grasping people like that probably have difficulty in paying for anything and try it on all the time...

claret.badger - 2012-12-14 09:01

glad it WASN'T through eBay -they ALWAYS back the buyer

 

*phew*

deliverance - 2012-12-14 09:04

glad its sorted ,  it used to be the seller that ebay backed not anymore as you say  .

retrodos - 2012-12-14 09:09

Originally Posted by Claret Badger:

glad it WASN'T through eBay -they ALWAYS back the buyer

 

*phew*

If it thur Paypal, he can still do reverse payment and put a claim in. The only way he can't, if payment was sent as gift, as it very hard to at that point.