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ULTRA RARE KENWOOD WALKMAN CP-D7 GOLD JDM DOLBY C WORKING CONDITION

maxim - 2013-10-15 16:40

ULTRA RARE KENWOOD WALKMAN CP-D7 GOLD JDM DOLBY C WORKING CONDITION

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walkman.archive - 2013-10-16 00:34

Is that model really gold??? Or is a matter of the white balance and the light source?

claret.badger - 2013-10-16 00:39

Originally Posted by Walkman Archive:

Is that model really gold??? Or is a matter of the white balance and the light source?

+1

maxim - 2013-10-16 01:06

Gold 

almost same as wm-40 gold

 

just check all photos at ebay

maxim - 2013-10-16 01:13

 

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walkman.archive - 2013-10-16 02:28

I've downloaded your photo and corrected the WB using a sample from the transparent window (where only the lighting color is seen) and this is the result:

 

 

Kenwood WB corrected

where I can see it's -I guess- the very same unit I have, which is silver but with a veeery slight yellowinsh tone:

 

KENWOOD CP-D7 01

 

But not gold in any case. Can you clarify this, please, Maxim?

maxim - 2013-10-16 02:52

Originally Posted by Walkman Archive:

I've downloaded your photo and corrected the WB using a sample from the transparent window (where only the lighting color is seen) and this is the result:

 

 

Kenwood WB corrected

where I can see it's -I guess- the very same unit I have, which is silver but with a veeery slight yellowinsh tone:

 

KENWOOD CP-D7 01

 

But not gold in any case. Can you clarify this, please, Maxim?

 Your backround is neutral dark gray + cold light

My table with woofd texture give more warming colors

will make new photos later today with neutral black 

walkman.archive - 2013-10-16 03:27

Originally Posted by Maxim:

 Your backround is neutral dark gray + cold light

My table with woofd texture give more warming colors

will make new photos later today with neutral black 

The background is black and the light is neutral with a slight warm (indirect sunlight at about 6 pm in a sunny day. Maxim, what matters is not what colour has the light, the important thing is how is adjusted the WB in camera. The WB can make a cold scene look warm and the oppositte too.

Trust me, I know all this stuff very very well.

IMHO, you have strong issues with the WB. You definitely need a white card for properly adjusting WB in your indoor shots. YOu can also use a pure white object, like a white ceramic plate or cup. Not a plain white paper sheet! Use that to adjust the WB under that light source using instructions from your camera manual and you will improve the photos a lot.

maxim - 2013-10-16 11:40

white balanced

 

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maxim - 2013-10-16 11:46

Hugo, I think it is kind of gold 

white gold

sparkling gold

warm platinum

but looks like gold

 

WB mode indoor lamp  

 

nak.d - 2013-10-16 22:58

Hi, nice WM's there. How about taking a photo in daylight?

maxim - 2013-10-17 00:22

Originally Posted by Nak D:

Hi, nice WM's there. How about taking a photo in daylight?

will try

walkman.archive - 2013-10-17 02:58

Originally Posted by Maxim:

Hugo, I think it is kind of gold 

white gold

sparkling gold

warm platinum

but looks like gold

 

WB mode indoor lamp  

 

Hi Maxim,

 

I'd say it's more like "warm metallic". The WB indoor light has less precision "than a show shotgun".

It really fails in properly balancing the warm tone of indoor bulbs. You may do the manual WB as I said; it's the only way to properly do it... unless you shoot in direct sunlight with the WB sunlight mode, which has a really high level of precision.

but direct sunlight is an ugly light; I don't recommend to do that. It's better to shoot in shadow, but then thw WB mode sunlight shadow doesn't work as good as direct sunlight...

ao - 2013-10-17 08:47

Sorry, that's not gold.  As Hugo says, change your WB from 'shaded light' setting to just sunshine (pic of sun) then it should give a truer pic.

maxim - 2013-10-17 09:54

Originally Posted by agentorange:

Sorry, that's not gold.  As Hugo says, change your WB from 'shaded light' setting to just sunshine (pic of sun) then it should give a truer pic.

Last photos was made with Correct WB for indoor mode 

so as my eyes see it - it is like gold color

it is not easy to make correct vision to everyone, but it is matt gold for sure

and it is not about how to make a photos, so you can call it "platinum" or "without color", but no difference to the result, when you will see it by your eyes

 

and for Hugo

thanks for advices  most difficult to find place for extra light, only few meters at my place, and no additional space at all< so hard to be better photos maker

 

maxim - 2013-10-17 09:57

same WB ballance

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maxim - 2013-10-17 10:00

Originally Posted by Walkman Archive:
Originally Posted by Maxim:

Hugo, I think it is kind of gold 

white gold

sparkling gold

warm platinum

but looks like gold

 

WB mode indoor lamp  

 

Hi Maxim,

 

I'd say it's more like "warm metallic". The WB indoor light has less precision "than a show shotgun".

It really fails in properly balancing the warm tone of indoor bulbs. You may do the manual WB as I said; it's the only way to properly do it... unless you shoot in direct sunlight with the WB sunlight mode, which has a really high level of precision.

but direct sunlight is an ugly light; I don't recommend to do that. It's better to shoot in shadow, but then thw WB mode sunlight shadow doesn't work as good as direct sunlight...

Hugo WM-40 is Gold or @warm metallic???

nickfish - 2013-10-17 10:19

Holy shit! That is some scary ass cat like thing in your closet!

Damn!

maxim - 2013-10-17 11:04

without flash

WB indoor

no additional light

scary cat

 

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nickfish - 2013-10-17 11:14

Is it inside out?

maxim - 2013-10-17 11:36

if you mean cat

it without hair 

most amazing is temperature always 42C I can't tell how much in F

warming thru all night time

 

PS: for Hugo - color is almost the same cat&CP-D7 GOLDY

nickfish - 2013-10-17 11:50

Very disturbing.
Anyway, if you say the Kenwood is gold; i believe you.

seb968 - 2013-10-17 12:37

Very handsome cat!! Often seen pictures of these, never met a real hairless cat!

walkman.archive - 2013-10-17 14:08

Originally Posted by Maxim:

without flash

WB indoor

no additional light

scary cat

Maxim, your previous photo with flash light doesn't prove anything... sorry.

This one maybe shows something interesting. Is that shirt/jacked white? If so (I guess so), then the WB is incorrect as I predicted, because in the photo is warm.

Maybe you see it in white or even blue color, but that could be easily a monitor issue. Do you know that monitors can be calibrate and that every one shows colours in their own way?... except if they are precisely calibrated using precision instruments.

My two monitors are calibrated, so I can easily see that WB issue.

Can you take a photo of the walkman beside a white ceramic plate or cup? (in the highest quality your camera allows, even RAW file) using WB sunlight mode.

That way I can examine and determine approximately what color is.

walkman.archive - 2013-10-17 14:16

I corrected your last photo with a proper WB, supposing that shirt is white.

 

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Isn't those a more real colors?

maxim - 2013-10-19 07:18

day light direct sun

WB sun mode

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walkman.archive - 2013-10-19 15:18

Maxim, maybe I guessed but did not say: I mean sunlight at 12:00-2:00 PM, not in sunset.

I'm sorry to say, byt that photo is unuseful, because:

- you didn't include a pure white object, like a ceramic plate or cup

- you didn't share a RAW file, but a lossy JPG.

 

In fact, there's not that big problem to shoot in sunset (because in essence the colorimetry is the same as in the mid day, just the color temperature changes), but it's unuseful if you don't do those two things I asked for...

 

regards,

maxim - 2013-10-19 15:26

was first sun for few weeks

here is almost winter time 

but sure will try again

maxim - 2013-10-20 06:35

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nak.d - 2013-10-20 06:53

There yer go

maxim - 2013-10-20 07:04

Originally Posted by Nak D:

There yer go

No sun

just almost sunset time (very cloudy)

but indoor still gold both of them

Bond -Just  call me James Bond

Platinum or Gold finger or shaked....

Hell cameras, WB and all stuff

I trust only my eyes

minty - 2013-10-21 02:25

How much for the cat?

minty - 2013-10-21 02:28

I would say the colour is champagne.

maxim - 2013-10-21 08:19

Originally Posted by Minty:
How much for the cat?

friend are not for sale

maxim - 2013-10-21 08:21

Originally Posted by Minty:
I would say the colour is champagne.

21 years old shampagne almost goldy shine

walkman.archive - 2013-10-21 14:52

Those latest photos really show what colour they have, so probably there's no need that I analyze them. However, I quickly did, by simply reading the R (red), G (green) and B (blue) numeric values of the pixels from a small smaple.

 

After receiving RAW files from Maxim and examining them, I saw that if the background is pure white, then the Kenwood is veeery slightly red, so it's metallic with a very slight warm tone. No even champagne.

So it's exactly the same as mine.

The other is slightly blue, but almost completely neutral.

That's my analysis, based on the statement that the background, which seems to be a plastic chair is pure white (and probably it is not pure white, but more a blueish white)...

 

 

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